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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:51 pm 
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I think MC humans are equal to or better then any race/class combo...
You usually get an ATT point or two but get handed racial weakness...

Like mercs you get better CON but get the racial weaknesses from being a giant... like well, Mind, lightning and whatever they may have...

For balanced classes like priest/bards a human will hold there own agianst any other race regardless of cabal/tribunal...


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I have spent my time on the mud avoiding PK and all information here is based on "Things I hear"...


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Dear Samemasu, apparently your friends are more newbs than you. Humans are more than decent in many cases, and if you knew how important dexterity and dexterity-based skills are for a merc, you would know that THEIR choice of a giant or dwarf over a human really sucks.


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juggernaut wrote:
Dear Samemasu, apparently your friends are more newbs than you. Humans are more than decent in many cases, and if you knew how important dexterity and dexterity-based skills are for a merc, you would know that THEIR choice of a giant or dwarf over a human really sucks.

I am one of those friends. Like I said, the conversation was intended to be in jest, and he took it a little more seriously than I had intended. Also, like I said, I generally DO choose Humans as Mercs, because of their balanced stats. However, the difference between a Dwarf and a Human Merc isn't enough to say that it "really sucks." There's only a two point difference in DEX, for a larger CON pay-off. It's not like we're comparing a Sprite Barbarian to a Giant Barbarian, after all.


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You did, however, constantly push that Humans are "mediocre" at everything. Mediocre doesn't imply" average" so much as "eh...." But it was more Friend #2's insistance that bugged me anyway.

Anyway, a lot has been cleared up for me and I truly appreciate it =) You've all been a big help.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:46 pm 
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Like I said, the conversation was intended to be in jest, and he took it a little more seriously than I had intended. Also, like I said, I generally DO choose Humans as Mercs, because of their balanced stats. However, the difference between a Dwarf and a Human Merc isn't enough to say that it "really sucks." There's only a two point difference in DEX, for a larger CON pay-off. It's not like we're comparing a Sprite Barbarian to a Giant Barbarian, after all.


I'd much rather have a human merc than a giant merc.


Much. Much rather.


You're forgetting racial weakness.


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Almost every single one of my characters have been human.

There's so much more freedom that way.


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Grakus wrote:
Felgus wrote:
Like I said, the conversation was intended to be in jest, and he took it a little more seriously than I had intended. Also, like I said, I generally DO choose Humans as Mercs, because of their balanced stats. However, the difference between a Dwarf and a Human Merc isn't enough to say that it "really sucks." There's only a two point difference in DEX, for a larger CON pay-off. It's not like we're comparing a Sprite Barbarian to a Giant Barbarian, after all.


I'd much rather have a human merc than a giant merc.


Much. Much rather.


You're forgetting racial weakness.

I'm not forgetting anything. The entire conversation where this all occured was taken out of context. The "Giant Mercs were better" never really happened. When I said Giant Mercs were superior, it was based on the STR stat and ONLY the STR stat.


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But STR alone doesn't make them superior, is what I think we established.

And again, YOU specifically didn't say Dwarves/Giants were better, Friend #2 did (keeping his name out of it for his sake).

But you both did just give me a hard time about it out of the freaking blue.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:46 am 
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Alright, I didnt read every single post, but I didnt see this mentioned.

Human merc - Gstr and haste has the same strength, less con and more dex that a giant merc hasted. The human is a small size so he will also dodge more. The dex also helps this and hitting more. Damage might be slightly less, but any good merc worth his salt has heal vials.

Also throw in a lightning or psyonic based attack and the giant is toast.


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