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Author:  Paladin656 [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  What is a siteban?
I know it's one of the most sever actions to be taken against someone disruptive to the mud/forums, but what exactly is it?

An IP ban?
A ban of a block of IPs?
A ban of an entire ISP?

Just curious.
Author:  Fepel Veiled [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:08 pm ]
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More than likely just an IP ban, but they'll just use a proxy and do a hop.

Then they aren't really banned. :roll:
Author:  Salak [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What is a siteban?
Paladin656 wrote:
An IP ban?
A ban of a block of IPs?
A ban of an entire ISP?


Any of the above. It's a situational thing.
Author:  Dulrik [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:13 pm ]
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If the player is banned and they continue to access the server through alternate sites, we will continue to delete every additional character of which we are aware. You might last awhile, but somebody will eventually figure out who you are.
Author:  Paladin656 [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:29 pm ]
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Who I am? :o

Guilty by curiosity? lol I was just wondering how it worked on people who had dynamic IP's by the nature of thier connection vs those with static addresses.
Author:  Fepel Veiled [ Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:43 pm ]
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Even if you have DHCP set up and reconnect with a new IP, the Imms are not morons...

If you are the only person hitting up from a 9.43.7.X address, even if it's .28 one day and .133 the next, there are only so many people from that C class, and maybe even fewer if your ISP is using CIDR for your network segment.

The only problems they would have if someone used a forwarding program that pushed packets from a different IP, but then it's only a matter of time.

If I made an alt people could tell my *style* rather quickly, no matter how hard I tried to hide it. And in time they would know who it was and delete them and ban a new IP.
Author:  Baraka [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:27 am ]
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Fepel Veiled wrote:
Even if you have DHCP set up and reconnect with a new IP, the Imms are not morons...

If you are the only person hitting up from a 9.43.7.X address, even if it's .28 one day and .133 the next, there are only so many people from that C class, and maybe even fewer if your ISP is using CIDR for your network segment.

The only problems they would have if someone used a forwarding program that pushed packets from a different IP, but then it's only a matter of time.

If I made an alt people could tell my *style* rather quickly, no matter how hard I tried to hide it. And in time they would know who it was and delete them and ban a new IP.


Good points, but I think he was refering to an ISP like AOL that assigns your computer a new IP address depending on which local server you connect to.
Author:  soultoast [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:41 pm ]
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Not many AOL'ers figure out text-based gaming, honestly, and people with sitebans generally do one of the following to alert the IMMstaff:

1. Appear under a new identity, yet still seem to know everything about the game.
2. Can't keep their traps shut to their OOC friends (IMMs always find out).
3. Assume that the IMMstaff is completely stupid, and doesn't know anything about networks.
4. Appear under a new identity, yet somehow achieve GM, PAR, religion leader, and cabal leader in a week.

Usually, those who get sitebanned are sociopaths or just plain stupid, so it is in their very nature to get caught again... and again... and again. Note: if nothing has changed, and you knowingly help someone (to avoid/who has) a siteban, you can probably get in trouble too.
Author:  Ruud [ Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:11 am ]
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You WILL get in trouble. There's been quite a few situations (okay, not that much in the overall scope of things) where even if you aren't punished OOCly, you're going to get it ICly. :/

Personal habits and movements are a dead giveaway as well. It's really easy to recognize other players by how they talk, emote, or even input commands.
Author:  Fepel Veiled [ Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:16 am ]
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Aliases and pet names often are dead give aways....

Since people don't see them at times, most people get sloppy and revert back to old habits.
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