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Author:  rinda [ Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  skills increase
I'm assuming that skills increase as the player uses them. I started out using a dagger, which was at average. Every once in awhile it would say that the skill had increased. Now I use a sword and I've switched from dagger. It never says my sword skill increases.

I'm aweful at most of my skills. Yet, no matter how much I use them, I never seem to go up in them. Do I have to be higher than aweful for them to increase?

And will they eventually increase from their current descriptive word (aweful or bad) to the next descriptive word even if I don't ever train them -- just from using them?
Author:  Guest [ Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:38 pm ]
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Skills will increase as long as you are the appropriate level. IE mentor level skills won't increase at expert or lower. Your int also affects how often you can get improvements, but the system rewards the improvements at random. The higher your intelligence though the more likely you are going to get a random improvement at any particular skill used. So if you want to increase your skills (or spells or songs) faster then either train intelligence or find equipment that increases your character's intelligence.
Author:  Mot [ Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:47 pm ]
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Or it gets the hose again!

But yes, what he said. I think if a skill is low enough it goes up very little, though.
Author:  baldwama [ Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:06 pm ]
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The higher level you are, the less experience it costs to learn the lower level skills/spells from a trainer or a mentor. The right combination of intelligence and wisdom speeds further training in the skill/spell while you are performing it. It is up to you when you wish to learn a new skill/spell and how you wish to improve upon it. There is much equipment in-game available to improve both your intelligence and wisdom as well as using your STAT points.
Author:  Benzo Balrog [ Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:33 pm ]
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In general, an "awful" skill is just as bad as an unlearned skill. You're much better off either training it completely (or not at all if the skill is above your level).
Author:  silmar [ Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:14 am ]
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The skill improves seem to be on a bell curve if you are really bad you dont improve and if you are really good you dont improve much in the middle you improve quickly. As a general rule of thumb if a skill isnt fair dont waste your time trying it to improve it go find a trainer and spend some coin and XP.
Author:  TheCannibal [ Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:55 am ]
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wisdom has absolutly nothing to do with increasing your ability. I'm not sure where baldwana is getting that from. Its purely based on int. Adder is pretty much right on when he says its at random, some people argue that you have a higher percent chance to increase from failures than you do succeeding. The bell curve bit I'm not able to comment on. I've seen no evidence to support or to contradict it.


My personal theory is that you have an equal chance to improve a skill/spell no matter if you succeed or not; however, since you only use half the mana to cast a failed spell as you do to successfully cast it, if you use certain means to lower your ability at casting the spell so you fail a large amount of the time, you get twice the chances to improve per mana pool as if you succeeded everytime, since you are using the spell twice as much. I don't believe it has any bearing on skills though I may be wrong, bell curve theory guy might be correct.
Author:  Guest [ Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:32 am ]
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TheCannibal wrote:
wisdom has absolutly nothing to do with increasing your ability. I'm not sure where baldwana is getting that from. Its purely based on int. Adder is pretty much right on when he says its at random, some people argue that you have a higher percent chance to increase from failures than you do succeeding. The bell curve bit I'm not able to comment on. I've seen no evidence to support or to contradict it.


My personal theory is that you have an equal chance to improve a skill/spell no matter if you succeed or not; however, since you only use half the mana to cast a failed spell as you do to successfully cast it, if you use certain means to lower your ability at casting the spell so you fail a large amount of the time, you get twice the chances to improve per mana pool as if you succeeded everytime, since you are using the spell twice as much. I don't believe it has any bearing on skills though I may be wrong, bell curve theory guy might be correct.


I'm not Adder you [REDACTED].
Author:  TheCannibal [ Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:07 pm ]
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sorry, I had been drinking.
Author:  Raynor [ Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:46 pm ]
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silmar wrote:
The skill improves seem to be on a bell curve if you are really bad you dont improve

But if you are worse at the skill/spell, you have a higher rate of failure, which increases the ratio of improves, right?
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