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 Post subject: Name Violations
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:58 am 
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Is this name original and not from a popular work of fiction? [Y/N] y
Is this name a slang term or found in any english dictionary? [Y/N] n
Is this a combination of two or more other names or words? [Y/N] n


We've all seen these three questions many many times. That being said, the names Cobbwinkle and Fizzlecrank are clearly name violations.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:09 am 
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gork wrote:
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Is this name original and not from a popular work of fiction? [Y/N] y
Is this name a slang term or found in any english dictionary? [Y/N] n
Is this a combination of two or more other names or words? [Y/N] n


We've all seen these three questions many many times. That being said, the names Cobbwinkle and Fizzlecrank are clearly name violations.


Those questions are basically there that if you lie about any of it, the IMM's can just hell you and you would have no excuse to whine about it. Since, you broke the rules by lying on those questions.


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since when has lying been against any rule?


We see the stupid names all the time. No one even cares really. Though I'd rather not see names from popular fiction, or even some slang. I do find that the combination thing should be allowed. So much can be made from that if you put thought into it. And it's easy for someone like me who sucks at making names.


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What is Cobbwinkle from? Based on my expereince with the english language, it isn't in the dictionay and it isn't an agglomeration of two words (the double B takes care of that). I can only assume that your beef with the name stems from its use somehere in a fictional world. Frankly, it was new to me; I'd not heard of it before. I chose the name after looking at some fantasy name generators on the web, chosen from a list of 200 generated at random. N_G


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Just to make sure I'm not nuts, I googled Cobbwinkle. I got roughly 48 hits, mostly from guild databases for WOW or other online graphical fantasy games. 48 hits does not make me think Cobbwinkle is a wildely known name. Compared with say..... Aragorn (over 3million hits) or Gandalf (11.4 million) and some of the other well known names, 48 hits does not make me inclined to think its a well known name. N-G


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:33 pm 
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What is Cobbwinkle from? Based on my expereince with the english language, it isn't in the dictionay and it isn't an agglomeration of two words (the double B takes care of that).


A single letter isn't enough to negate that it's a combination of two words.


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Sure it is.

Cobqwinkle, if you change that second B to something obscure that doesn't flow well it looks just like a run on name. He just used another B, so the sound wasn't changed, but it's no longer a combination of 2 words, it just happens to be a name that has two real words in it, along with other letters. And there is nothing in the rules against that, unless we start banning any name with two or more words in it, in which case you'd have to nuke half the MUD.

Damacon? Looks like Dam + a + Con to me, not allowed.

I really find the whole nitpicking over names quite dumb to be honest. As long as it's not something BLATANTLY obvious, like Gandalf, Jesus, or Ixfuckedxurxmotherxlastxnightx, let it slide, names aren't unique in real life, I see no reason why they should be in SK.


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I do find that the combination thing should be allowed. So much can be made from that if you put thought into it.


I will say that there are some names that are less appropriate than others, but that this isn't a rule I'm going to be a total hardass about 100% of the time. The rules are there for a reason, but at the same time, this one doesn't strike me as a Crushing Absolute*.

I think Fizzlecrank is a perfectly SK-gnome-appropriate name, for example. There are in-game cultural contexts in which exceptions might make sense.

*That is to say LOL I OBVIOUSLY HAEV 'OOC HISTORY' WITH ANY PLAYAR WHO DOES NOT GET BY WITH A NAEM OF TIHS SORT ADN IF SOME1 DOES IT IS IMM FAVARITSMZ CONSPIRACY.


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I agree. I am against inappropriate names, too, but as usual, I do find some player exaggerating on the drama about it. And let's not forget that someone may come with a really original name (or so he thinks) and after quite some time happens to realize that somewhere in the world there IS a word that is his name!

At least that is what happened to me with Gasbah. I found Gasbah a wonderful name for that char of mine, the sound of the word fitting a lot how I imagined him. It was almost a year after that I discovered that Gasbah is the name of a musical instrument (some reed from Africa)! How worse a coincidence could it be that it was the name of a bard?


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I don't see a huge problem with Fizzlecrank's name, honestly, because like Thuban said, names like that for gnomes/dwarves are sort of culturally acceptable, in their own way.

I wouldn't, however, want to see religious or common names, like Mary, Josh, George, Athena, Aphrodite, Dagda, Thorr, or Ceridwen.

I also wouldn't want to see any little Luke Skywalkers running around.

I think the rule should be enforced a little bit better, but I'd also hate to see it turn into a super hardcore thing.


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