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Author:  Pushing40 [ Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Art and bards.

Does art help bard songs or do bards only need art if they acquire spells?

Author:  Muktar [ Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:54 pm ]
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Art affects songs that a save would be appropriate. Songs of Sleep, Silence, and Death, are examples. It also affects all chords.

Author:  juggernaut [ Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:44 pm ]
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I think that this is wrong. I think art affects only chords and the use of scrolls.

Author:  Salandarin [ Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:26 pm ]
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given how often this question is asked, can we please have something added to the helpfile on art to clarify this? i swear i've seen this question at least half a dozen times, and the same "i think" and "i'm pretty sure" answers come up every time.

Author:  thunder [ Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:48 am ]
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Here's how I understand it:

1. Art comes into play for anything that involves a save.

2. The following bard skills involve saves:
- songs of dancing, to resist getting caught up in the dance
- songs of sleep, to resist full sleep as a non-combatant
- songs of silence, to resist full entrancement
- power chords, to resist their side effects
- scrolls
- persuade

(Songs of dancing is the only one I'm not sure about. There -might- be something else besides a will save to avoid the effect.)

3. Therefore, art is useful for the things listed above.

Anyway, it's not a priority stat since much of the bardic skill set isn't affected. Bards have enough problems distributing their points elsewhere, so I wouldn't bother with art trains unless you plan to make heavy use of offensive scrolls or persuade.

Author:  Cyra [ Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:55 am ]
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When are bards getting songs of deletion?

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