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As this can happen to more than just total newbies and you aren't necessarily reading the help files right when you got killed...

Could we get some kind of echo when you try to "say" after dying but having not manifested? E.g., "Your voice seems to dissipate into the ether." You could potentially also add something that the live PCs in the room hear like "A faint howling sound like the wind through the trees reaches your ears and then fades" to clue them in that some newbie ghost is trying to talk to them but failing miserably.

Alternatively, you could just let says from unmanifested ghosts be heard by people in the room.

Author:	Konge [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:27 am ]
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Could manifest be added to the list of 'see also' in the help death? I remember being completely dumbstruck when I found out that people could not hear me when moaning from my ghost form. From perusing logs, it seems that this is one of the misconceptions which are the hardest to rectify, because well ... you can't hear them. Perhaps even a mention of it in the help death itself.

Author:	Fepel Veiled [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:55 am ]
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I agree 110% with this comment.

Author:	Achernar [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:56 pm ]
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Great point. I'll fix it later today unless Alshain beats me to it.

Author:	Teh_Peso [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:48 pm ]
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beat them both!

Author:	Szaldora [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:18 am ]
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As this can happen to more than just total newbies and you aren't necessarily reading the help files right when you got killed... Could we get some kind of echo when you try to "say" after dying but having not manifested? E.g., "Your voice seems to dissipate into the ether." You could potentially also add something that the live PCs in the room hear like "A faint howling sound like the wind through the trees reaches your ears and then fades" to clue them in that some newbie ghost is trying to talk to them but failing miserably. Alternatively, you could just let says from unmanifested ghosts be heard by people in the room.

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Author:	Malhavoc [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:40 am ]
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Szaldora wrote: As this can happen to more than just total newbies and you aren't necessarily reading the help files right when you got killed... Could we get some kind of echo when you try to "say" after dying but having not manifested? E.g., "Your voice seems to dissipate into the ether." You could potentially also add something that the live PCs in the room hear like "A faint howling sound like the wind through the trees reaches your ears and then fades" to clue them in that some newbie ghost is trying to talk to them but failing miserably. Alternatively, you could just let says from unmanifested ghosts be heard by people in the room. No. The way it is is just fine, you can still talk to the rest of your dead partners. I'd be annoyed to get that echo while trying to talk to them.

Author:	Achernar [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:48 am ]
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I have added manifest to the "See also:" list on the end of the help death file.

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