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What should be done with minotaurs?
Give them Toughness 21%  21%  [ 6 ]
Implement proper head pieces 64%  64%  [ 18 ]
Leave them alone, they rock 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
Wert option 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Minotaurs suck
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:07 pm 
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it's literally the only thing stopping me from considering a minotaur character. Granted, races all have their weaknesses and such, but to miss a piece of armor where (if I'm not mistaken) a damage multiplier is located... wow. What if someone with a sonic weapon mangles the head? If the head pieces were like... horn bracers, or nose rings, that would be perfectly alright I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Minotaurs suck
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:48 pm 
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Yeah, they're weaknesses seem worse than any other races, which is supported by the fact they go pretty much completely unplayed.


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 Post subject: Re: Minotaurs suck
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:10 pm 
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Mintars have better stats and are far superior to many races.
Racial weakness, they don't get helms? So get some spellups and play a mintar barb?


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 Post subject: Re: Minotaurs suck
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:11 pm 
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Mintars stats aren't /that/ great, afaik.

I think Mintars have 24 str? If they do, that's just [REDACTED], because it's not much better than 23, and you're still going to want GS to be at your peak in PK.

I don't feel like looking up their stats right now, somebody post them here, so I can look at them later.

Centaurs get 23 str, 20 int, 23 wis, 22? con, 20 cha, 16 dex. Size large. Those are some pretty badass stats for stuff like hellion/scout or cabal'd merc/barb. And centaurs actually get an extra eq slot over other races, due to horseshoes + horseshoes + barding. Minotaurs get at least 1 less eq slot total than normal races. And it's a REALLY IMPORTANT ONE. Hell, look at all the crying that eventually got centaurs leg armor after years. Just give minotaurs helmets. If sprites can wear robes (griffons can wear robes too) and breastplates/etc a Mintrawr can wear a helmet.

I don't know if Mintrars can wear leg slot or not. But no helmet is pretty rofltastic. And okay, Peso. Lemme see you roll a human barb who never wears a helmet.

I think they inherited the old centaur weakness to "magic" damage too. Like. Uh. Magic Missile, and I think deadly wrath attacks, lol? They are also weak to sonic damage, and I know at least two of the best subtypes in the game have sonic damage versions. (Kama and Khopesh) And one easy to get bwhip is sonic damage.

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In short, Minotaurs suck and toughness is not enough to bring them up to par.


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 Post subject: Re: Minotaurs suck
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:30 pm 
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Mintrawrs should lose the weakness to type energy. It is ridiculous to have that weakness in the day and age of CRS cabal guardians. Most of their classes are melee classes so they are out of tanking automatically when dealing with CRS. Also, melee classes without a helmet? Plz, might as well be a spellcaster with no mana.


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 Post subject: Re: Minotaurs suck
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:12 pm 
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If the polar bears from Golden Compass can wear armor and helmets, I think minotaurs and griffons (pleasepleaseplease) should be able to figure out the technical difficulties of leather straps. And as someone playing an EQ deficient class, I can say that it seriously blows.


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 Post subject: Re: Minotaurs suck
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:30 pm 
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I have a near master minotaur shaman and I have no complaints. I do think minotaurs are missing something though...

Guess I'll have to find out for myself...


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