Shattered Kingdoms

I genuinely do not believe that this happens anywhere near as much as some people make it out to happen. I've been accused of it more than once over the last year, but anyone that was playing with me at the time knows I never actively set out to ruin another player's experience.

The individuals that most frequently issue this sort of complaint are those that CANNOT back up a particular style of RP, and get rolled by those who can. A shift in RP can always (and I do mean ALWAYS) stop a continued rolling by playing the humility that a character incapable of overcoming an opponent SHOULD show.

I agree completely. Some people just don't enjsy wallowing their pride. Other times, the winners demand impossible compensation. It is possible to say uncle, but many people don't know how to do it properly.

That, right there, shows that it's less a problem with the aggressor, and more a problem with the defender. Yes, sometimes impossible terms are set for surrender, but that's not USUALLY the case. In those cases, more reasonable terms would be appropriate. However, learning to say "Hey, I can't beat you, I'm going to lay low for a while until someone comes along to lead who CAN beat you" is necessary. I've had to do it more than once, if I ever involve myself heavily in this game again as a player, I'm sure I'll have to do it again ('cause, once more, I'm def not top of the food chain when it comes to PKers). It's not always the most fun, but it does lead to greater overall enjoyment of the game.

Dulrik, if you want to venture into making code changes that benefit RP, then I'm very happy for that. However, I think you should start with the already suggested targeted emote command (and judging by the past poll, so does 90% of the rest of the playerbase).

It is not only that there is one crowd that puts PvP to the back burner - there is a crowd who puts their fingers in their ears and goes Lalalalalala whenever they believe PK is about to happen, and then comes to the forums and moans about it, while more or less tacitly agreeing among one another to pretend in game that PvP does not exist. This allows fake bad-ass hellions of war, or fake paladins who don't actually, you know, do their job and bolt of glory necromancers because hey - PK doesn't count anyways, right?

The "puts RP to the back burner crew" basically consists of Jeckel/Navelic/Adroan aaaand one maybe one or two others who aren't playing right now. It is not the problem. The problem is that we sit here with 18 pages of contemplating how to make this game more terrible for people who enjoy things other than "has 10 chars consisting of parents/kids/cousins and logs on each one every day to multiplay their love interests/antagonists/what have you" instead of just giving everyone useful tools like expanding emotes, etc and letting the cream rise to the top.

I don't think you understood my posts, but whatever. I didn't say one side of the spectrum is better than the other. They're just different. The middle ground is best. I think that a large majority of the players do role play. I just think how that is viewed changes based on point of view. Whining about dying is whining. The game has player killing. Period. Role play is required. Period. Does every person do it the same? Of course not.