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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:11 am 
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The meaning of the word mundane is opposite of the word magic. There's no way that any spell is mundane. Because it is just the exact opposite.


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I am going to go ahead and say that I believe lore should be a viable means of ascertaining identity, as it does now.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:26 am 
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–adjective

1. of or pertaining to this world or earth as contrasted with heaven; worldly; earthly: mundane affairs.

2. common; ordinary; banal; unimaginative.

3. of or pertaining to the world, universe, or earth.


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Too much Piers Anthony, Achernar?


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Until I make a barbarian and suddenly can cast identify upon everything, then the spell will be common. Until then, it has limited use among most casters and magical item users. It is only common amongst them.

It is ordinary amongst the above group since it is something that they use constantly. To everyone else that wants it, it is a pretty extraordinary thing.

It is banal and unimaginative, but it is also a basic spell. Perhaps someone will write a script to colour the output for personal view so that it is flashy and glittery to make it seem more interesting.

The only change I could see to identify is to make it level based. Non-magical items have a 5% chance to be identified per level above the caster. Magical items fail 10% per level above the caster's level. Art can lower the chance of failure 2-3% per point of art.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:15 am 
Almost any . . . scratch that EVERY race can have a caster, and every caster class except for warlocks get identify.


. . . sounds pretty common to me.


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Achernar wrote:
Magical means of divination should provide identity. Mundane things like being butchered, skinned, or dismembered should not reveal identity. I think that's simple enough for me. I know there was a change recently which took away some of the identifying parts involved with butcher and dismembering, but I don't know if it was intended to make it completely impossible or just not obvious at first glance.


So, because you throw the word magic infront of it, it makes it alright? So I can't divine from the entrails of a corpse the name, but casting identify on a non-magical object all of a sudden gives you the name? Failure.

Unless you think we should get the name of the cow when we identify a steak, your viewpoint is flawed.

Meat is meat.

Either Butcher/Skin/Identify or none of the above.


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What a meaningless argument about nothing. You can always just type who, eat a spirit sight item, then type who again - and voila.

Why people care about this and not about bounty NPCs or law (stuff that actually affects the game!) is beyond me.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:09 am 
If you don't see the effect this has on the game, you're a fing noob.


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Gilgon wrote:
What a meaningless argument about nothing. You can always just type who, eat a spirit sight item, then type who again - and voila.

Why people care about this and not about bounty NPCs or law (stuff that actually affects the game!) is beyond me.


I thought I was the only one who does detective work around here. I believe Identify should work on body parts, btw. I'm with the others on that.

As for meat is meat, I'm not buying it. Magic is magic. Maybe the magic of identify can identify one person from another because the flesh each person housed a different spirit in life that left traces of who that peson is behind. I don't know it's magic.

If you are saying that you can't identify a person by their entrails then they need to fix that.


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