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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:50 am 
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Aside from casting the spell on yourself and walking around cities to troll people, the spell seems pointless to use in any situation. The cast time needs to be reduced.


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:01 pm 
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I guess it's always seemed to me like plague is supposed to be for walking around cities "trolling" people, as you put it. There's lots of maledictions for use in combat. Why does plague need to work just like them?


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:35 pm 
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Let's sit back and consider the value system under which OP calls plague worthless and reflect on that question.

Ventriloquism may also be in trouble.


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:49 am 
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You sit back far too much. It's time you stood up and walked away.

Cure critical is a worthless spell. The cast time is only slightly shorter than heal, the mana cost is slightly less, and the healing benefit is almost halved. Would I ever cast CC over heal in combat? No. Maledictions are a category of spell of varying utility in various situations. Healing prayers are a category of spell of varying utility in various situations. I think plague, given the situation for which it is intended, is fine. Be more creative.


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:46 am 
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Cure critical is not useless. Cure serious is useless. Generally don't even train it on any class that has access to it. Cure crit is situationally useful where as there is no situation where cure serious is a better option than 2xcure light, 1 cure crit, or 1 heal.

Plague's casting time should be reduced, that's about all the spell needs for balancing.


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:50 am 
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Why? It is the #1 most annoying spell in the game already. I say that affectionately to illustrate its worth. A high casting time is the price for this.

Just consider it a non combat spell for all intents and purposes. It's something that should either be cast on a weapon before a fight, or used in non-combat situations to infect an area. It doesn't need to have its cast time reduced as there are, as noted, plenty of other good choices for maledictions in a combat situation.


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:23 pm 
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Plague stops mana and PE regen. Can be cast on a weapon and food/drink. Rogues can actually make amazing use of this spell. I think the cast time puts plague clearly in the place where it should be used. The issue I have with the spell is the fact tribunals can no longer stop plagues in their city because the healers wont cast remove plague.


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:29 pm 
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archaicsmurf wrote:
You sit back far too much. It's time you stood up and walked away.


Stop flaming. It's hard to even fabricate decency when this is what you get in response.


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:52 pm 
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I mean, you do sort of invite it.


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 Post subject: Re: Plague is still a worthless spell.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:40 pm 
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Sure, but does anyone *else* receive nasty little PMs over these things? :drunk:

I try to throw the odd bone in to keep the conversation moving, at least, like asking about the hellion skillset, but I guess that's not why some people are actually participating in the conversation.


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