Shattered Kingdoms

It just doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I wouldn't really say that someone having control over your person for a few in-game hours is losing control of your personal destiny.

I mean, I honestly might prefer a charm and a bit of rp to the ol' take all, drop all, junk all.

I understand though, some people don't like it. I just wanted to put in my two cents as someone who would miss the spell and it's applications. It has been part of the game for a long time and I don't think sorcs would be the same without it.

If any offensive skill or spell lands it's not going to kill you instantly. It actually takes skill and thought for most things unless you get spam bashed. Even then you can order a pet to rescue you and escape.

And for other "insta-death" skills/spells... If you get petrified you can tell someone and they can come depetrify you quickly, or come and guard you so you dont get depetrified killed, or come kill them before they depetrify kill you.

Finger of death is not an insta-kill, as it dont do too much damage unless you have no enchants.

Voodoo you can have shield and sanct up, and dont usually kill you unless they have a doll or you just dont have much hp. Also you can ask for help from a friend to gather your things, and there is also major drawbacks to it as you can gate to them easier and gank them.


Charm person you cast it, it takes what...2 rounds...and you automatically win. No draw-backs, nothing they can do to save them or their things, and what they can do in the situation with you is far worst than any of the other situations. (Take your things or junk them, then kill you. Or keep your things on you and take you somewhere that would be hard for others to get to you and then petrify you. Or lead you somewhere to send you to jail.) It's pretty much a "screw you" spell. Rarely ever does someone rp with you when you're charmed, and even if they do they're usually planning on taking your stuff or junking it anyways and killing you.

Mundy, you are getting off topic! Magma is soooo overpowered! Hey! I enjoy the possibilities that charm brings to the game, yes you may get annoyed, but begging for things to be hit with the nerf bat is rediculous! If anything charm person needs a BUFF! FLEX THEM MUSCLES >-<

I created Alis based on charm person after a few other ideas I had for her went sour. One thing I found is that people really, really, REALLY don't like to RP being charmed at all. Not only is it an "iwin" spell as people say, it also humbles the opponent as well as humiliates them. A lot of players of this game have way too much pride to actually admit defeat, or when they do, a couple of days / week later they're back to being billy badass again, as its said.

A lot of the people my character charmed left with their stuff intact. She actually only ever killed 1 person and even depetrified them afterwards because I felt bad about doing it. The spell is fine, it's just people hate actually having to RP something they don't want to RP is all it really boils down to.

However I will say that its save may need to be looked into.

I think a bit of humility would serve a lot of people well.

More limitations ? No thank you

I say unlock all NPCs so they can be charmed (and be gateable too - thanks).
Also make NPCs able to drop things they sell when charmed.

This will make it funnier.

Just because your own country is crumbling into anarchy doesn't mean SK needs to crumble into anarachy.

I'll say this once more...
- There can be no guidelines on the charm RP because there isn't -ANY- RP about it...Thus the hardcoded -You can't do anything-.

- Whoever thinks that charm produces -ANY- kind of roleplaying, then she/he has no idea what roleplaying is or she/he is a plain hypocrite.

If you're wondering why, just think of what 'charm' asks you to RP.
-An imbecile?
-A friendly chap?
-A dubious personality?
-A character who just lost all his memories AND ethics?
-Someone who is paralyzed but only when it comes to some actions?!
-An evil character who wouldn't hurt a fly now?
-A good character who would kill anyone with his master's nod?
I can go on and on...

The spell 'charm' utterly dissolves any RP behind the character and transforms him to an empty shell.
So, whoever uses the say or emote command, is actually breaking the rules of charm. If you cannot do actions like eat, drink, sit, stand etc...Then you can't wave, nod, bow.
If you lose the instinct of survival, then you are below animals and SHOULD NOT speak at all.

QFT! I complely agree.

Regarding there being no defense against charm person? As I recall people who are charmed are very easy to summon or gate to. I might be wrong though. Buuuuut... yes - make charm only for npcs and give sorc a new spell

Sorc have enough spells as it is.

Also, You'd have to inform someone you're charmed and you'd have to go auto summon on. But with the part of not being able to send tells...well you're screwed.