Sargas wrote:
Here are all the problems with Swashbuckler as a class:
1) They can easily get out-attacked by someone wielding a sword and shield because of specialize, fury, etc.
With the exception of a no-parry weapon this is what riposte is for. Theoretically a swashbuckler can get 12 attacks a round. This skill also robs the other classes of all those attacks being dished out each round. You get six attacks? No, more like I get six more attacks!
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2) They can easily get out-damaged by someone in the front row also doing the same amount of attacks; since their prime stat is dexterity, they are a surprisingly poor choice for a human.
I'll agree with this. At a glance, dexterity is such a horrible stat.
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3) Haste very rarely gives them a fifth attack. Very, very rarely.
Not true.
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4) Since they do not wear heavy armor, they tank roughly as well as someone in the front row, so they can never be aggressive without almost getting killed.
There's almost no real bonus for swashbucklers to go defensive. They don't get the bonus that goes along with wearing a shield. This is why paladins/mercs/barbs are the best tanks in the game. Also, rescue is light years beyond taunt.
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5) Massive weapons are insanely difficult to parry; in fact, there's way too many weapons that are too difficult/impossible to parry now (they at least get a chance VS some of these weapons, though).
At a glance this seems to be true, but my testing pretty much showed that it's almost dead even, and that was against Aurenna, who has a terrible build.
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6) Good light armor is difficult to come by, and the best light armor available breaks too easily to the best weapon materials available.
Builder issue. Plz fix.
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7) The best weapon(s) for a swashbuckler are also the best weapons for other front line classes (epee, rapier, kama, sai, etc.), and other classes can put those weapons to better use than they can.
Builder issue, needs more swashi weapons, especially in the sai/epee area. Also a problem with hoarding douchebags that think they need 4-5 adamantite one-handed weapons.
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8) Mithril is one of the most surprisingly disappointing materials in the game, and supernatural armor no longer exists at all.
Supernatural as I can recall is irrepairable. Mithril also isn't disappointing, the last swashbuckler I played wore mithril skins (because mithril avaiable to the playerbase is trash). I did just fine with it.
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10) Despite there being a cloth-equivalent set of equipment that usually compares equally to adamantite (energy), there is no such set of equipment for light armor.
Energy should be a light armor type. Yeah, I know I just opened the floodgates for complaints about my character, because that seems all people can think about these days, but let's pretend magical vestments doesn't exist. The last sorcerer I played had no trouble with ranged combat. The last necromancer I played had no trouble with ranged combat, and that was using supbar energy armor that is probably about equal to magically vested cloth. Energy is a great material that is well suited to a frontline class.
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11) Mithril armor can lose all its protection when damaged enough, while heavy armor simply will not.
This has never been an issue with light armor characters I've played. Of course, I never let my armor get *that* damaged.
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12) There is a surprisingly low amount of good mithril equipment in the game, while there is a wealth of good adamantite and diamond. Furthermore, there is no "diamond" for mithril (same protection with some drawbacks) like there is for adamantite.
Builder issue, plz fix.
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13) Swashbucklers have no way to immobilize someone, so they can't keep up with other classes that can quaff, because fly is way too good (even with what I think have been some nerfs already?).
Is the fly change active or something? If so, then it still sucks, and it wasn't harsh enough on melee people.
Sargas"14) There is roughly one swashbuckler build that is anywhere near competitive.[/quote]
All the races are fine. Iron isn't a weakness so elf/deep-elf/half-elf/sprite are completely fine. Human is fine, so is halfling, and whatever else races swashbucklers can be. Elf, and deep-elf are probably the best combos for the class at that.
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15) Swashbucklers are THE most passive class in the game: they do practically nothing active; and even if they could, they'd spend most of the time not doing it because they won't be able to keep most enemies immobilized. (This is more of a problem with immobilization options, though.)
Fly fix! Maybe we'll see trip, and dirt kicking used again.
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