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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:20 pm 
Shamans are great pvp and group chars :-?


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- Get rid of the any room cast make it same room only.


Not sure what this means, to be honest, but sounds like it can only be cast while the victim is in the room. It should still be kept as is.

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- No longer takes all mana instead more like a quarter or 1/3rd of it.


If you wish this, then there should be an instant kill check similar to that of finger of death due to the shock to the body. Note the similar, meaning the percent could go lower. I don't think a change to mana cost should be considered, nor the above thought be applied.

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- Is on a 5 minute cooldown - meaning can only be used once every 5 minutes. Not sure if this is even possible to code


This is pretty much alread in effect. You cannot do anything for about 3-5 minutes, never timed it, except sit there, then you still need to sleep another couple minutes to get back to full mana.

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- Has a high chance to at least take 50%-75% percent health and bash for 3 rounds


I'd still rather there be cast voodoo victim area so that you can do specific damage to those areas, with appropriate maledictions. If aimed at arms or legs, a chance that one, or both, are severed from the force of the spirits.

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- Spirit aura must be up and using this spell removes it.


It already has to be.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:24 pm 
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He's suggesting turning Voodoo into a combat spell, instead of an across the world insta kill, hence the same room requirement.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:40 pm 
It shouldn't be so powerful if it's a same-room spell. It'll make caster vs shaman combat impossible.


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Well it would also get a save if it was in room.

He's basically proposing making it a more potent version of finger of death with bigger drawbacks to the caster, higher mana cost, cooldown timer, etc... Instead of having it being an across the world kill spell.

I'd rather it be a combat spell something like Terrus proposes rather than the most powerful PK spell in the game that poses no risk to an intelligent voodooer.


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You know, you can gate back and kill a paralyzed shaman that remains paralyzed for a whole 5 minutes.

Only thing that voodoo needs, I say it once more, is a flag on the victim to not allow double/triple voodoo. For a single voodoo to kill any semi decent char it takes at least some effort and skill from the caster. Not to mention that all it takes is gating and ganking the shaman to take away his advantage(read: mana lewt).

Have shamans take some risk and put some effort to create deadly voodoos. Don't let a handful of gimps just do a triple naked voodoo with no real drawback for them to gank anyone.

PS: Jardek, it's been how many years ago since the Ironclaws? Perhaps look a little more back than the last 5 threads, don't act that stupid. That is if that thread isn't gone by now. It's funny how some times you look so stupid for suggesting things that change when the conditions in the way you play change. Much like Cyra crying rivers in the leaders' forum over the economy of Taslamar getting raped when I had Golg.


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Seriously, just stop pissing off shaman.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:52 am 
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You know, you can gate back and kill a paralyzed shaman that remains paralyzed for a whole 5 minutes.


Tried it, the guy I got to make gates failed three or four times with no successes.

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Only thing that voodoo needs, I say it once more, is a flag on the victim to not allow double/triple voodoo. For a single voodoo to kill any semi decent char it takes at least some effort and skill from the caster. Not to mention that all it takes is gating and ganking the shaman to take away his advantage(read: mana lewt).


This is a possible fix - if it's coupled with an inability to kill a person. Have voodoo, if you will, always on mode stun.

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Have shamans take some risk and put some effort to create deadly voodoos. Don't let a handful of gimps just do a triple naked voodoo with no real drawback for them to gank anyone.


There is no risk to getting loaded up with mana batteries and +ME eq.

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PS: Jardek, it's been how many years ago since the Ironclaws? Perhaps look a little more back than the last 5 threads, don't act that stupid. That is if that thread isn't gone by now. It's funny how some times you look so stupid for suggesting things that change when the conditions in the way you play change. Much like Cyra crying rivers in the leaders' forum over the economy of Taslamar getting raped when I had Golg.


Jesus man, let it go. Release your anger and stop riding on other people's coat tails, and let people get to know you for just you. Man, it's so sad.

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Seriously, just stop pissing off shaman.


That is your response? Your response is to advise everyone to be friendly to shamans. That's [REDACTED], man, and I'll assume that it isn't an official position statement (though I would appreciate one).


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Jardek wrote:
Tried it, the guy I got to make gates failed three or four times with no successes.

OMFG! Now that is like one hell of an argument, right? Lawyers FTW!!!~11

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This is a possible fix - if it's coupled with an inability to kill a person. Have voodoo, if you will, always on mode stun.

QQ more. You didn't have trouble in the past doing voodoos on mode kill. Oh, the hypocrisy!

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There is no risk to getting loaded up with mana batteries and +ME eq.

Mana batteries do absolutely nothing in voodoo, you can no longer get your mana with them above 100%. And mana EQ is there, but once again, so is a paralyzed shaman waiting to get ganked and lose his mana EQ.

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Jesus man, let it go. Release your anger and stop riding on other people's coat tails, and let people get to know you for just you. Man, it's so sad.

But how sad is you changing your opinions depending on what chars you play at that moment? Basically it's not sad, this is idiotic at least.


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