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Do you think it a good idea to prevent people from recalling/quitting for a time after being rez'd?
Yes, it's the fools fault for having died anyway? 24%  24%  [ 8 ]
No, that's a bit harsh. People shouldnt have to stick around if they don't want to. 62%  62%  [ 21 ]
I don't much care... 15%  15%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:55 pm 
Amadeo wrote:
All I hear is people whining that they don't want to pay a bit for getting a free/cheaper ride to life than reincarnation, and being too afraid to die again immediately that they'd do recall to avoid a chance at the RP because ALL they think is that they're going to immediately get PK'd again.


How ironic, because all I'm hearing is people whining that nobody wants to RP with them and they want coded rules enforced so that they have to.

The simple fact is, Amadeo, that there are countless options open to you. From what thedrifter just suggested about you, it's not a surprise to me that people are running out on you.

As for the suggestion that you'd need 'an army' to beat down a newly-resurrected player... Seriously folks, it's a newly resurrected character. All you need is a pet that can bash and a couple of harms. Oh no, so much preparation :( :( :(

For those who say "But I never rez someone with any backup!" it sounds like you're begging for a high-level barb to die intentionally, scam a rez off you, and beat you to death naked. Seriously, I have done this before, it's funny, but the priest doesn't usually approve, and given this thread I would hate to see the result of such a thing.

Forsooth, no, I don't play priests, because that kind of RP does not appeal to me. Just like perhaps those people who are throwing a hissy fit should consider doing.


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Seriously folks, it's a newly resurrected character. All you need is a pet that can bash and a couple of harms.


Before you even order a bash, you have to find him. If said character has the word "recall" typed in while waiting for the rez, he can hit return before the priest can type so much as a letter. Poof. Now you have to hunt the guy down with gates, after resurrection just depleted a big chunk of your mana.

Assuming you can get in the same room with him, you're dependent on your NPCs for any lag. Doing detailed control work with a NPC requires luck as well as skill. And I hope you aren't using Harm, which has a lengthy cast time.

A solo kill is possible with good tactics and circumstances, but it's surely not as simple as you make out. Priests are not a good solo PK class. Good friends make killing much easier. But anyone willing to watch a priest do multiple resurrections is a good friend indeed. As you mentioned, Jardek, it's not RP that appeals to everyone.

This doesn't mean that resurrectees ought to be free kills for cheated priests. But those arguing for insta-recall shouldn't complain when priests give unknown ghosts a hard time.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:56 pm 
Don't make me roll a gank machine priest. It can be done, you know. And yes, some people might be able to get away. But then you get more of the RP you're saying you desire so badly. And you get to PK a so-and-so and teach them a lesson!

Seriously, if that's what being a priest was all about, I'd definitely want to play one. It's the rezzes that go off without a hitch that would annoy me.


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I'm going to take a moment to disagree with Amadeo (as someone who plays a priest) again, but also plug the pulse racing thing again. I'm almost tempted to make it a separate poll.

People running out is an IC problem, not an OOC issue. Making their pulse race makes IC sense but would, at the very least, make it more interesting for someone to run away.

And it's really not hard to enact retribution on someone that tries to trick a priest. There are so many ways to get at people, especially as a priest.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:34 am 
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I support resurrection making pulse race. First, it makes sense that coming back to life after death takes an IC hour or two to get used to. Second, it prevents people from recalling immediately after being rezzed. Does this prevent them from escaping? No, but it does require them to run, or talk, or fight to survive. Third, it only affects classes without strong divine connections: classes with particularly strong ties to the Greater Spirits can still cast WoR.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:39 am 
Jardek wrote:
Seriously, if that's what being a priest was all about, I'd definitely want to play one. It's the rezzes that go off without a hitch that would annoy me.


Man, I bet Jardek would make a bitching hellion of war.


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Most of the changes proposed so far, lead to new ways to abuse the spell.

-You cannot force people to roleplay-


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The greatest change I would even agree to seeing, and this is the limit IMO, is giving the pulse race after resurrection. Makes me think of Princess Bride. (Yes, I know a better comparison would be raise dead, but that's not the topic here.) I don't think you should be running off right away after a rez, but I don't think that it should be strictly enforced.

The most I would agree to is the pulse racing. Then if you want to trick the lighty priest, you have to run away from them. That's fair in my book. Why would the "gods" allow you to trick a priest and then give you transport back to your home safely?

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Why would the "gods" allow you to trick a priest and then give you transport back to your home safely?


Because Thuban likes to laugh at the rest of the pantheon sometimes?


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Because it is ONE god that grants ressurection, out of the other 14 im sure at least ONE other god would find it hysterical for you to jet out on said priest.


I have to completly agree with jardek on this. He's absolutly correct. Priests are easily one of the best gank machines in sk and I'll be happy to roll one up and prove it all over again if necassary. If someone swindles a rez out of you, JUST DON'T REZ THEM AGAIN!!!! It's not that hard.

I recently swindled one out of othet with my diabolic character, but I at least did stick around and rp with hiim, though it was rather looney toons what with me dancing him about and kissing him bugs bunny and elmer fudd style. Othet ran me down in teron, unfortunatly for him I had geared up and survived, but the fact remains that if OTHET of all people can run ME down, then no one should have trouble with this on their priest.

PS: Sorry to use you as an example othet, nothing but <3 for you.


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