Shattered Kingdoms

So... you -think- it does, or you know it does? Because no "testing" would be necessary if you knew, which is obvious given your extensive 2 Cain Techt trips that you cited.

Also, Fridge poses a good question. Personally, I feel like it's ridiculous that having a smaller weapon would increase crit cleaves.

Im skeptical.

These are my observations over multiple sizable trips to an area where I was using the skill a lot. They're not reliable by any stretch of the imagination--I sure as hell wouldn't recommend using a smaller weapon based on that alone, because the lessened damage just isn't worth the chance--but to me, at least, they represent a strong possibility that could be worth testing.

Again, I don't play a hellion, and I wouldn't say I'm experienced enough with the class or even as a general player to give more than the most basic advice on playing one, but I have noticed a significant trend with smaller weapons, and it could be of value to any hellion player with the time and means to test it.

I found the idea ridiculous as well. Speaking about it on YIM (I forgot who with), I was told that smaller size weapon might result in heightened accuracy in exchange for lessened damage, much as larger size weapon results in greater damage for less accuracy, and that accuracy could affect the chance of landing a critical cleave. That's a tentative possible explanation I was given, but I find it unlikely, given the low accuracy of the weapon I was using. All polearms suck for accuracy, and Bill isn't even the most accurate of them.

I'm having trouble believing this.

I don't believe it at all.

>_<

BTW: Hellion was a fun class for me to play, no matter what Edoras says.

I had no problem killing people with a Hellion, though I don't know what has changed since the last time I played.

I remember Grakus saying that the more accuracy a weapon has, the more likely you are to crit cleave. I also remember that his naginata (the fear one) landed a shit-ton more cleaves than my landy (ain) did, and it so happens that naginatas have more accuracy. There's likely other factors.

As for the class, I'm not sure what anyone's talking about. Granted, my Hellion was the same time as Slayne, but he was decent if not great, and I'm not nearly the PK- driven player that Cannibal and Ardith are, or Grakus for that matter.

Howver, even with my limited ability, I still held my own. I just prepared, kept my saves up, and played to my strengths, not my weaknesses.

The only way to get a reliable answer, rather than just hear-say, is just sit down and do a lot of testing and crunch the numbers. I've heard plenty of theories of how to increase the likelihood of critical cleaves, but I've never seen anything over the course of four hellions to back it up. I did have some that seemed to crit a lot, but I chalk it up to the fact that Seram just happened to crit cleave a lot in pk, whereas my others would do it against NPCs, and it always seems more significant when you critical against a pc.

Could there be factors other than just rolling d%? Sure, but I've never noticed a real difference, no matter what subtype or weapon type I was using in the crit-rate.

Just my two cents.

I hit a lot of critical cleaves. They just happen to be against NPCs and not PCs. I guess it can be good that the critical ones don't happen that often against PCs because that would make a very boring game. For me at least.

I don't believe your theory about size small weapons, Fluff.