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See IMMS RPWHORES want to play delf bards and halfling sorx, not just pkers!


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All I can say is I think halflings are to civil to be shamans or Barbians. I don't see any reason why they can't be sorcerors though.


You keep spouting this line of crap because you read it in Tolkien but have you actually been to the halfling villages in the game? Some of them are pretty savage.

The one up north especially. I don't know why there aren't shamans in it.


There is actually a shaman there, undead -halfling- one with the young deep-elf, teaches some shaman stuff as well I believe.


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Zellidon wrote:
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All I can say is I think halflings are to civil to be shamans or Barbians. I don't see any reason why they can't be sorcerors though.


You keep spouting this line of crap because you read it in Tolkien but have you actually been to the halfling villages in the game? Some of them are pretty savage.

The one up north especially. I don't know why there aren't shamans in it.


There is actually a shaman there, undead -halfling- one with the young deep-elf, teaches some shaman stuff as well I believe.


So? There are also elf barbarians in the game too. Doesn't mean there should be.


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The concept of elf barbarians has no relevance to halfling shamans. Your point that both exist in the game I suppose has some weight, but I believe the point that there are halfling shamans was only brought up because someone said theres no IC history for it as a claim for why it should not exist.


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josephusmaximus3 wrote:
The concept of elf barbarians has no relevance to halfling shamans. Your point that both exist in the game I suppose has some weight, but I believe the point that there are halfling shamans was only brought up because someone said theres no IC history for it as a claim for why it should not exist.


Ah, barbarians and shaman are linked to the core. Shaman the spiritual advisors of barbarians. If you allow halfling shaman then there HAS to be halfling barbarians. Shaman come from barbarous tribes or clans.

And the point was this. Just because there's a halfling shaman in the game doesn't mean there should be. There are also elf barbarians in the game. They are not a playable class either. What's next a giant bard? The point is this, just because some builder put in something that doesn't make sense doesn't mean it's a good addition.


I'm not crapping on the imm staff either. Sk is a magnificent piece of work. Alot of great builders have passed through here. But no one is infallable. Bad choices do get made. Hence the numerous wimps to the game and it's areas. The lost jungle used to be full of overpowered herbs. The area was great but the builder went to far. Stuff like that.


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By your logic since there are gnome shamans there should also be gnome barbarians? Seems like your reasoning is flawed.


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josephusmaximus3 wrote:
By your logic since there are gnome shamans there should also be gnome barbarians? Seems like your reasoning is flawed.


help_barbarian wrote:
Barbarians are uncivilized warriors who combine instinct, determination and
sheer brute force into a formidable fighting style. Barbarians are healthier
and feel the pain of wounds less than others. They are rarely surprised by
any attack as their combat instincts never allow them to relax. Most
barbarians view magic as a weakness and disapprove of its use. They do,
however, have a special bond with shamans and will always accept the use of
their spirit-gifted powers.


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help shaman
Shamans are the holy people of the barbarian tribes that roam the wilderness.
They worship the spirits of their ancestors instead of the gods, but receive
potent spells of both offensive and defensive natures for their devotion. The
special powers of the shaman are tied to their close contact with the spirit
world, but their close contact with barbarians also strengthens their skills in
the arts of war.


No my logic isn't flawed. Shaman come from barbarian tribes that roam the wilderness. That's help shaman. If you have shaman you have barbarians. That's SK, straight from the help file.


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Gnomes are shamans and cannot be barbarians. So your claim that a race has to be both in order to be one is untrue.


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Halflings can cast spells and sorcerors can cast spells, ergo halings can be sorcerors.
Gnomes can punch and barbarians can punch, ergo gnomes can be barbarians.
Griffons suck and bards suck, ergo griffons can be bards.

My logic is irrefuniable.


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josephusmaximus3 wrote:
Gnomes are shamans and cannot be barbarians. So your claim that a race has to be both in order to be one is untrue.


Then the helpfile is wrong. Not me.


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