Gilgon wrote:
Yeah, but we were 1 veteran lighty and lots of newbs vs 5-6 veteran darkies.
Actually, it was you (Centaur Talon priest), Emeriel (swashbuckler), Caeserea (Sorc) and Greyforth (Talon warlock) versus Jurithiel, Nyoethai, Ilyash, and Hutin: Two priests, a necro with undead, and a swashbuckler. Four PCs vs. four PCs, and YOUR side had two tribunal guards you could have thrown in the mix.
Now, let's assume that instead of being a pansy and having Caeserea go in FSing with Emeriel naked, you actually thought up a decent defense plan.
Emeriel could lead the group and walk in (Since he was obviously able to do that with Caeserea) and you could form up with two rows: Tribunal guards in front, armored/sanced Balacha in front of Emeriel in front of you, sanc'ed fire elemental in front of greyforth in front of Caeserea, and you could do a holy word walk-in, followed by another holy word, followed by one of those nifty holy word scrolls that you always boasted about having, if you had one. Even if you didn't, you would probably drop the undead and dispel a lot of buffs with 2 HWs.
Caeserea could just cast petrification on Ilyash, since at the time he was going MR and petrification bypasses MR and goes right for his crappy age-ticked necro fort save. Even if that didn't work, though, his undead would still be gone. Afterwards, she could spam acid blast on Hutin.
Emeriel could just dirt kick/taunt the casters until Balacha died.
greyforth could just spam magma/lightning bolt on Hutin, and you could have faerie fired Hutin, then spammed harm on Hutin. If you could have dropped Hutin and the undead, then they would have had no physical damage to run off of anymore and be forced to flee from just the fire elemental and armored guard in the third row.
Would it have worked? Who knows: It depends on how quickly they would have reacted to your attack and what they would have done in the meantime: Most of that plan goes by in three combat rounds or less, which is pretty quick. You're just a big pansy and would never think of doing something that risky: I remember when I was playing as Fink we had three people attacking Menegroth: Two front row, you, and some guards, and you were too scared to move one room to kill Pertinax who was all by himself.