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 Post subject: Re: Incentivizing RP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:15 pm 
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Styles, dude. You aren't always right. And we don't need 10 page essays from you in every single thread proving that YOUR POINT IS RIGHT AND THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION, jfc.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:15 pm 
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Consider, instead, dropping an idea that is horrible.


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 Post subject: Re: Incentivizing RP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:16 pm 
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Superman wrote:
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The paragon system is already complete BS because the only people we see getting the paragon title are mudsexx0rs and they reward people for mudsexxing with them.

Sorry, but that is the truth.

I would just like to point out that's not the truth. That's hyperbole.



No...that's straight up pretty accurate. You will occasionally get 1 or 2 people who genuinely deserve PAR, but usually, no.


So... it was hyperbole. Sometimes actual RPKers become paragons. Wouldn't it be great if that happened more often?


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 Post subject: Re: Incentivizing RP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:17 pm 
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Superman wrote:
Styles, dude. You aren't always right. And we don't need 10 page essays from you in every single thread proving that YOUR POINT IS RIGHT AND THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION, jfc.


You also dont need to read his posts. I usually dont when I see blocks of text.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:20 pm 
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Superman wrote:
Styles, dude. You aren't always right. And we don't need 10 page essays from you in every single thread proving that YOUR POINT IS RIGHT AND THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION, jfc.

You may not like it that there's a guy like me who thinks about how SK might be improved and offers up ideas, but too bad. I'm here and you're going to get page after page. Live with it.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:21 pm 
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Styles wrote:
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Styles, dude. You aren't always right. And we don't need 10 page essays from you in every single thread proving that YOUR POINT IS RIGHT AND THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION, jfc.

You may not like it that there's a guy like me who thinks about how SK might be improved and offers up ideas, but too bad. I'm here and you're going to get page after page. Live with it.


Nah. Most of your thoughts seem to revolve around how SK can be improved for you, and screw everybody else.


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 Post subject: Re: Incentivizing RP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:22 pm 
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Styles, please provide us with an example of an RPKer getting paragon. I'm not saying there has never been one, but I can't think of one, personally.

Maybe I was arguing using hyperbole, as you said, but even if I was, I'm not far off. That doesn't make it hyperbole, exactly. I guess I'm exaggerating slightly, but certainly not more than, "slightly".

Again, provide an example of an RPKer getting paragon or STFU and stop giving dumb ideas.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:27 pm 
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Consider, instead, dropping an idea that is horrible.

The problem is that we are operating from different premises. I believe that GM should be vastly more difficult to achieve. I realize I'm in a very small minority who share this opinion. This is precisely why I offered an alternative that would keep advancement the same as it is now but also open the door to one level of additional achievement beyond GM as a reward for good RP. What's so horrible about that, exactly? I might consider the idea of dropping it if you can make a strong argument for why it's horrible.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:30 pm 
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Styles, please provide us with an example of an RPKer getting paragon. I'm not saying there has never been one, but I can't think of one, personally.

Maybe I was arguing using hyperbole, as you said, but even if I was, I'm not far off. That doesn't make it hyperbole, exactly. I guess I'm exaggerating slightly, but certainly not more than, "slightly".

Again, provide an example of an RPKer getting paragon or STFU and stop giving dumb ideas.

Didn't Pijouh make paragon? What about Tolene? Maybe Ithorim? Alaric? Veloras?

The irony here is that you see the paragon system as being deeply flawed. Many of the ideas proposed in this thread are aimed precisely at fixing those flaws. Instead of offering up constructive input you are just using hyperbole and fallacious arguments to try to undermine those are are being constructive. What gives? Do you want this problem addressed or not?


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 Post subject: Re: Incentivizing RP
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:32 pm 
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I really don't have to provide a reason for why every horrible idea is horrible. You are the one who came up with the horrible idea; provide a reason why it is NOT horrible (BTW, you haven't done so yet).

Just off the top of my head... If we make it so that there are very few GMs, PK would be incredibly lame. There would be a small group of people who mudsexx'd their way to GM status and then start PKing all these low level people who don't mudsex the world.

Also, Tolene mudsexes, Alaric mudsexxes. I'm not sure that Veloras or Ithorim ever made paragon.

There is no problem with the current leveling system.


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