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 Post subject: Resurrection
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:33 am 
Any chance of giving this spell to another class besides Priests? Pretty annoying that only one class in the game can perform this and it sucks even more when this class isn't even online when you actually need it, yet Paladins and Shamans are quite abundant though useless if you die in hard to reach / access areas, not to mention the fact they have to take the time to get there to help you.

Sure one can Death Quest or Reincarnate for a price, but some people don't exactly fair well in the leveling game especially the new people, nor do most fair well with the death quest questions unless they have a FAQ of their own with all the answers (Funny how one has too answer 2 questions instead of one)

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1) Give Shamans their own form of Resurrection.
2) Possibly give Paladins their own form of Resurrection (Light Auras only)
3) Allow a Hellion to restore a soul from Hell (Dark Auras only)

And one other fun idea,

4) Give Necromancers a player based Animate spell, allowing them to return ones soul to their decaying body for a span of time, giving the player for control of his character again until the body gives out and requires someone to breath life back into it or just Resurrecting the soul.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:16 am 
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Number four sounds really awesome.

I'd be up for giving other classes a resurrection-like spell, but perhaps with a few penalties. Not experience, but perhaps double spirit disorientation (either in time or double effects). Just so that priests are still the number one life givers in the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Resurrection
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:43 am 
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Chemhound2007 wrote:
1) Give Shamans their own form of Resurrection.

They have one. It's called 'raise dead'. I'm pretty sure the penalty for using it was lowered substantially since you last played SK. The biggest drawback to using it is convincing the shaman to get your corpse.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:21 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Resurrection
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:24 pm 
Dulrik wrote:
Chemhound2007 wrote:
1) Give Shamans their own form of Resurrection.

They have one. It's called 'raise dead'. I'm pretty sure the penalty for using it was lowered substantially since you last played SK. The biggest drawback to using it is convincing the shaman to get your corpse.


You seem to have lost sight of the actually topic and spell listed. Raise Dead doesn't do you any good when theirs no corpse. You only have one class that can revive with no corpse needed, when that class isn't present or on a side that can help you and your corpse is pretty much gone you're boned. Death Quest is only free the first time if you actually get it and Reincarnate is supposedly the last ditch option.

But since you're nice enough to bring up the penalties associated with Raise Dead, how about you tell me why that spell as a penalty where Resurrection has none? Ones more of a bother than the other and from what I hear rarely used. but then again with your backwards logic it isn't to surprising.

Raise Dead should have Zero penalty while Resurrection should hit the person with Resurrection Sickness. A Priest/Shaman should have Raise Dead at a rather low level, with Resurrection being at the top end, since I'm sure it would be easier to return a soul to his/her body that they are use too, instead of creating a whole new body for them to get comfortable in.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:51 pm 
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I wouldn't mind giving other classes resurrection, maybe in some other form. Sometimes it is extremely difficult to get a rezz and having more classes with the spell would definitely make it easier, make the game more newbie-friendly and a lot more playable than currently.

Maybe you can make it into a poll.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:56 pm 
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Chem - you playing a paladin, hellion, necro, or shaman right now?

I am willing to throw down some money on this one!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:02 pm 
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priest should be the only class that can rez without a body.

Shamanic raise dead is fine as it is.

Hellions don't get any sort of healing so raise is beyond them.

Paladins could get a spell I really love from DND, which allows the paladin to bring back a fallen comrade for a while, (like 20 ticks perhaps, in game) so that he can continue to fight. After the spell is over, the recipient falls dead again.

Necros could get a spell that binds the soul of a dead back to his body, yes. However, this should have some twisted benefit for the necro, and some penalty to the one that was raised. Maybe the character's type would turn to undead for as long as he 'lives' in this form.

My 2 cents.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:11 pm 
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Paladins are already fine as is..They really don't need anything else, and giving them a Vengeance type spell that allows them to resurrect allies to fight, even if temporary, would be overpowering..I mean it would be like you JUST managed to kill that pesky fist, only to have them be resurrected and right back in your face in 3 seconds.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:13 pm 
Gilgon wrote:
Chem - you playing a paladin, hellion, necro, or shaman right now?

I am willing to throw down some money on this one!


Time for you to pay up, wrong on all four accounts.


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