Shattered Kingdoms :: View topic - Did the recent changes improve melee combat speed?

There were good arguments made recently that melee combat was so fast that there was no strategy involved. Please this thread for more details:
http://www.shatteredkingdoms.org/forums ... hp?t=16936

Some changes that were made during the 05/02/2008 update were aimed at slowing down melee combat. They included the new prone status, magical flight changes, fatigue fixes/changes and a few other tweaks.

I encourage you to not to vote until you've experienced the changes made for at least a few days. Please elaborate on your experiences with the new changes.

Author:	Dulrik [ Sun May 04, 2008 10:46 am ]
Post subject:	Did the recent changes improve melee combat speed?
There were good arguments made recently that melee combat was so fast that there was no strategy involved. Please this thread for more details: http://www.shatteredkingdoms.org/forums ... hp?t=16936 Some changes that were made during the 05/02/2008 update were aimed at slowing down melee combat. They included the new prone status, magical flight changes, fatigue fixes/changes and a few other tweaks. I encourage you to not to vote until you've experienced the changes made for at least a few days. Please elaborate on your experiences with the new changes.

Author:	Gilgon [ Sun May 04, 2008 10:53 am ]
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I voted. Melee is obviously better due to the changes but is still too fast. There is no change in this code to affect a giant merc/barb, or a tribunaled/hammered/harlied warrior typing 'kill' on a hybrid and killing them within two rounds, even though that hybrid is in the second row. The solution is to differentiate in damage dealt by [REDACTED] materialed/named weapons and their elite versions. A steel battlespear should do less than Tregr, the Legendary Spear. A steel greatsword should do less than Soulshard. The damage that warriors currently do should be the equivalent of what a warrior does with only the best weapons in the game. Everyone else should be doing far reduced damage.

Author:	The Mighty Fluffball [ Sun May 04, 2008 12:51 pm ]
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If that happened, Peso actually WOULD win SK. If you were going to do anything remotely like that, wimp all melee damage and add innate enhancements to certain weapons--like enchants, only not removable.

Author:	allikat [ Sun May 04, 2008 1:51 pm ]
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The speed is good, I think Hellions need a bit of a buff right now tho, but the rest of the combat classes are looking about right from my POV.

Author:	The Mighty Fluffball [ Sun May 04, 2008 2:09 pm ]
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Bye bye bash/cleave. I vote to give hellions disarm.

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Author:	Kirsenvar [ Sun May 04, 2008 8:09 pm ]
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Just to clear the log on the link, which I should have posted on that post, but this one will do...I just had GS and Haste.

Author:	Teh_Peso [ Sun May 04, 2008 8:11 pm ]
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I'll tell you more after I kill some noobs >_<

Author:	Marfik(2008) [ Sun May 04, 2008 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Did the recent changes improve melee combat speed?
Dulrik wrote: There were good arguments made recently that melee combat was so fast that there was no strategy involved. Please this thread for more details: http://www.shatteredkingdoms.org/forums ... hp?t=16936 Some changes that were made during the 05/02/2008 update were aimed at slowing down melee combat. They included the new prone status, magical flight changes, fatigue fixes/changes and a few other tweaks. I encourage you to not to vote until you've experienced the changes made for at least a few days. Please elaborate on your experiences with the new changes. I like the changes, and maybe we could even do some more, even without straight nerfs (some buffs to certain other things, such as the amount of melee damage soaked up by armor, could have helped).

Author:	Rial [ Mon May 05, 2008 12:11 am ]
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In general I think melee damage should be about 75% what it is now, with the best weapons dealing like 90% what weapons do now. It definetly is a buff to casters in the sense that they will be able to get off more spells, but thats a good thing considering most small group battles are decided by the third round anyways.

Author:	Terrus [ Mon May 05, 2008 2:20 am ]
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Give it some time. There hasn't been any serious PVP that I've seen since the changes...Give it a week or two and I'd say everyone will have a fair assessment.

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