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| Author: | theDrifter [ Fri May 09, 2008 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Scout changes |
So I started to play my master(4) scout a little to see if anything changed for him and I have some questions. The two listed changes had to do with finding herbs earlier and skinning earlier. With herbs, prior to the changes I was able to find all the herbs except for the ones that are GM-only from what I've read. I'm still not finding any haste, fly or sanctuary herbs so I can't notice anything different here. With skinning, I had not tried skinning mithril animals since I didn't think I could skin them and I wasn't able to solo any of them to try it out. I still haven't tried skinning mithril, but I just failed my last two skinning attempts on much lower level alligators with scale hide, even though I'm level 44 and have skinning mastered. I thought the fail chance was only for things above the scout's level -- Is this working as intended? |
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| Author: | Muktar [ Fri May 09, 2008 2:35 pm ] |
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There was always a skin failure chance. It just got upped. Not having skin mastered makes the check higher. I don't know about the higher level herbs yet only because my scout isn't there yet and I don't know when you get what herbs. |
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| Author: | greencannon [ Tue May 13, 2008 9:04 pm ] |
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Has there been anything said about this issue elsewhere? The skill failure rates are really frustrating now. A GM scout with Mastered Skin skill failed on flying serpents at an almost 23% rate (from 0% previously). I mean really - that is about ridiculous. Not to mention dragons... 70% failure rate. Other skills seem to be impacted as well, though perhaps it is my imagination. Previously I almost never failed camo (mastered) - perhaps 5% of the time. Lately I can fail 5-10 times in a row. Did skill failure rates get increased across the board? Some of the changes were great, but these skill failure rate increases have not increased my enjoyment of the game - quite the opposite. |
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| Author: | Muktar [ Tue May 13, 2008 9:08 pm ] |
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I don't know what to say, but you have some horrrrrid luck. I just recently had to refit my scout and I used the flying serpents and I only failed to skin them once during that time. |
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| Author: | Kirsenvar [ Wed May 14, 2008 12:46 am ] |
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My scout friend has scout mastered and is GM, we killed a dragon six times to fail everytime on skinning. |
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| Author: | Orac [ Wed May 14, 2008 4:25 am ] |
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That's rediculous. Scouts just get weaker and worse as the years wear on. When I played Gorom scouts were very powerful. Even an elf scout was quite dangerous. Same with Dwallstrom it was the same - staves. Scouts now are so pathetic compared to the scouts I got to play with when I first started that it's just a big turn off for me. I mean with the old haste your pet aged a year, but you got double attacks on boulder bears and trinos, they hurt. Staves were available. So you could always fly and do much more. When I had Gorom you could skin and tailor supernatural hides. It was awsome. Scouts were awsome. Now scouts can hardly do anything. Bleh. |
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| Author: | Dulrik [ Wed May 14, 2008 9:42 am ] |
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There were no changes to camo failure chance. |
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| Author: | alvarro [ Wed May 14, 2008 9:43 am ] |
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Quit ruining it for us Dulrik. One of the greatest gameplay perspectives the game has is speculating about the code mechanics and changes. |
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| Author: | Dulrik [ Wed May 14, 2008 9:45 am ] |
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I had an idea about alternatives to the current high failure chance for skin, but I don't know if you'll like it. If you would fail now, instead of failing, you would get a skin that is not perfect and has a lesser protective value than a perfect skin. The more you failed by, the worse it would be. There would probably also be a descriptor so that everyone that sees the skin would know it is less than perfect. There would also still be some chance of outright failure. Example: a slightly mangled mithril skin |
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| Author: | Erevan [ Wed May 14, 2008 9:46 am ] |
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I don't think skinning failure rate needed to be upped that far, either. It just adds further need for grinding in SK, which I believe should generally be avoided. A 10-20% fail chance should always exist, but to force scouts to grind say, 40 dragons to get a set of armor just makes SK remind me of lineage 2. The herb change was great, though. |
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