Shattered Kingdoms

Ok so since it's such a huge issue in the current chapter, can we get a definitive answer on it?

Discuss as needed.

Remove the ability to charm PCs. I haven't seen it used in an entertaining way in years.

Charm, sleep, and taunt are the new I win combos of SK.

Nah only taunt is. Charm/sleep remain the anti noob cannons they have always been.

no ive seen charmed used horrible today.. Someone darted in recited and darted out in a matter of seconds it was weaksauce.. Failed but weak

I propose we just remove every skill that could be used in pk. I mean, all of them will be abused in some way at some point by someone, lets just head it off!

I do not think charm is imbalanced. People may be abusing it and it may be gaining popularity because of it effectiveness against most of the pbase. But it's not like someone else couldn't max out their stats for any other multitude of spells, skills and tactics and still beat the hell out of people with it.

Part of the failure here is everyone refusal to do anything that the charmer wants you to do.

I assume most of this has been because of Emet, but from what I have seen, whether you think his RP is good or not, at least he talks to you instead of 'charm, c fly charmed, fly over city, release fly charmed'. Though if he has done that, I see a lot more of him talking to his charmee than dropping someone over a city. The only weak thing about charm is that you can order someone to cast cabal spells. Like you would Icly know the magical incantations that requires experience to learn. I think you should get cursed for ordering someone to cast cabal spells.


Sucks to be charmed, but it also sucks to be cleaved, backstabbed, taunted, bashed, tripped, cursed and voodooed. And Magma sprayed. I'm sure there are others, sleep was mentioned I think.

I also think that most of the bitching about charm that goes on in the game is ooc. I think we should tone it down a little and maybe just avoid the charmer. We might all enjoy the game a little better if alot less people were "OMGZ did you see that gimp pull that sh1t!!! tell gimp YOU SUCK!!!111!!1...


anyhow, yeah, hearing people [REDACTED] about charm ic has been getting to me. tone it down please

SK is fun for me, don't know about most of you though... doesn't seem like alot of you are having fun unless you never get killed and kill everyone.


[edit] be happy there aren't voodoo scrolls somewhere. 0_o

Hey Gilgon, are your ears burning?

Why? I proposed the tactic. I got Iarbonel's sold ULTRA SCROLLS removed from circulation years ago (Sarukayn and a couple others were there), and I want to get ridiculous scrolls in general removed again.

Law code adjustment, too, gets served in the same purpose - because the above post fails to take into acount that the 'dart in and out' was actually done at their magistrate when I wasn't outlawed.

Furthermore, even if reciting was a crime, it wouldn't have been in the Empire - so I could have done that anyways without a crime against me, haha.

I think this is the real issue here. Gilgon forces the Imms to do what he wants them to do and we rarely get the Imms to just reply to our PMs or Emails.

There may not be direct Imm favoritism here, but there is differently an imbalance of player power here in OOC terms. In every other game I have ever played, be in real life sports, on line games, poker, what ever, if there was ever a PLAYER we tried to force rule changes or in any way blackmailed the game by certain plays, then they are BANNED from the game. Period.

I think the real frustration of the players is not Emet, but the player behind Emet and how he directly threatens the Imms, carries out that threat, and then the change he wanted is implemented.

We, as a player base, see this happening and it pisses us off. Why has Gilgon not been banned for abusing bugs? Because he told you about the bug before he abuses it? So if I tell you about a certain NPC giving off to much xp then I personally think, as long as I told you about it before hand, I can plevel my characters off said NPC?