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 Post subject: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:15 pm 
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SK Character: Karsh
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Breath of life is the warlock version of the raise dead spell. The
warlock must have your corpse in order to breathe life into your body.
There is also a small experience point penalty to the deceased, which
may cause you to lose a level shortly after being raised.


This spell causes spirit disorientation. It is against the rules to use
this spell on a dead character without first obtaining their permission.


Specifically for Senyn's player, should he read these forums, but also for anyone who has any kind of life-restoring spell that doesn't read the in-game help files on their own spells. Bolded portions are of specific interest.

I would also like to request that the help file for breath of life not read "small experience point penalty" and instead read "significant experience point penalty as compared to other options for life."


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 Post subject: Re: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:28 pm 
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I haven't played a 'lock in a while but isn't it just a single tick?

<=== Not Senyn


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 Post subject: Re: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:29 pm 
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No. It's not just a single tick. Raise dead tends to be just a single tick. Breath of life is two + ticks as a rule. It is the single least-sought form of life restoration in sk.

EDIT:

It's on par with or just below the experience drain on max oracle drain.


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 Post subject: Re: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:15 am 
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I can't log on right now, but I believe help death actually ranks the life returning spells from best to worst.


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 Post subject: Re: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:10 am 
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I can't believe he did a breath of life without asking.


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 Post subject: Re: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:23 am 
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Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous. When I heard that I was like "Uh, report him." But the player in question didn't want to.


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 Post subject: Re: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:56 am 
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So you took it on yourself to come do some public name and shaming on the forums. What a champion of righteousness.

With teammates like these... :drunk:


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 Post subject: Re: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:58 am 
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patrisaurus wrote:
So you took it on yourself to come do some public name and shaming on the forums. What a champion of righteousness.



Yeah, I did, 'cause it's a dick thing to do especially when it comes to breath of life.


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 Post subject: Re: For the benefit of people who don't read help files
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:05 pm 
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First off, Senyn's player is new. This is his first character and I'm sure he was trying to be helpful. He probably thought breath of life was just another spell for giving life like resurrection and didn't see any difference. Cut him a bit of slack, I'm sure he won't do it again if he's simply told ooc about the helpfile and the consequences of the spell.

Secondly, I don't see why the spells cost any more experience seeing as they need a corpse as a catalyst. If anything, with so many ways of destroying corpses immediately (butcher, etc) these spells should be just like res and not cost experience either or cost very little. I could see resurrection costing experience since it literally creates you a new body, but priests are already in low numbers right now. I know death is supposed to mean something in SK, but honestly, experience isn't the answer. -No one- likes grinding for hours on end to get those ticks back, and with the familiarity, some auras get fubared as to where they can train effectively. Even more so since the familiarity itself never decreases and experience eventually becomes nerfed in common training spots.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:07 pm 
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^----- This


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