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MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
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Author:  ninja_ardith [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
Code:
You yell 'Guards! A resplendent male griffon is trying to murder me!'
You counter a resplendent male griffon's attack!
A resplendent male griffon is unaffected by your counterstrike!


Magical resistance is such a terrible idea.
Author:  meztiso [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
Reading your recent posts makes me upset I did not stick with the MRbarb I had planned on using when I came back :cry:
Author:  Opey [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
What kind of weapon were you using? There could be other factors involved, as well.
Author:  ninja_ardith [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
Opey wrote:
What kind of weapon were you using? There could be other factors involved, as well.


I was using a weapon that does slashing damage because magic weapons are useless anymore.
Author:  FinneyOwnzU [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
ninja_ardith wrote:
Code:
You yell 'Guards! A resplendent male griffon is trying to murder me!'
You counter a resplendent male griffon's attack!
A resplendent male griffon is unaffected by your counterstrike!


Magical resistance is such a terrible idea.



Since you already verified you were not wielding a magic damage weapon, I am fairly certain I know what is causing this bug. When I played Maelgrim, a certain Hammer spell did not protect and/or work against counterstrike when using backstab.

When Dulrik fixed the Hammer spell to work against counterstrike, I guess (pure speculation) that he changed counterstrike into a spell and/or magic. The unintended consequence being that it made MR barbarians immune to counterstrike.
Author:  Dulrik [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
You realize that when you counterstrike, you are using the attackers own move (including their own weapon) against them, right? It's a redirection of their attack into their own body. I am guessing that the griffon attacking you was using a certain well known magical weapon.
Author:  Mcbeth [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
Dulrik wrote:
You realize that when you counterstrike, you are using the attackers own move (including their own weapon) against them, right? It's a redirection of their attack into their own body. I am guessing that the griffon attacking you was using a certain well known magical weapon.


This is what happened, I went and tested with a steel weapon and definitely took counterstrike damage.

Wheeeeeether or not MR barbs resisting magic damage from weapons is fair and balanced isn't really a bug discussion, although it's a fair game balance discussion :P.
Author:  grep [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
This means it is tactically beneficial for an MR barbarian to wield as magical a weapon as possible. That does not make much sense from a RP standpoint, and RP is what lead to things like the resist elements nerf, so.
Author:  Edoras [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
RP wasn't the only reason behind the resist elements nerf. By making it unbrewable, it made warlocks more powerful.
Author:  grep [ Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR barbarians immune to counterstrike
So what?
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