Be careful what you wish for. Give me a few to find my tablet...... for now, just allow claw shovels to follow the same general concept of kitten mittens.
I reserve the right to include tentacles in the requested image.
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| Author: | Anjin [ Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Griffons should not need shovels |
Hello. Griffons have claws and should not need shovels to dig. They should be able to use their claws. |
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| Author: | Trosis [ Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
A decent idea. But low priority. Anything else that you think shouldn't need a shovel? Or are you simply playing a griffon and you don't want to have to worry about carrying one? lol |
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| Author: | Nashira-2016 [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
Also, shovel should be a weapon type. |
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| Author: | woahboy [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
Giants shouldn't need shovels. Sprites shouldn't be able to dig at all. |
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| Author: | Meissa [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
Nashira wrote: Also, shovel should be a weapon type. Right? We all saw Home Alone, didn't we? |
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| Author: | Anjin [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
Every time I see 'talon-gripped shovels,' I die a little on the inside. Someone please post an image of what a talon-gripped shovel should look like. I can't picture a talon-gripped shovel, or a griffon using one. |
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| Author: | grep [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
Be careful what you wish for. Give me a few to find my tablet...... for now, just allow claw shovels to follow the same general concept of kitten mittens. I reserve the right to include tentacles in the requested image. |
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| Author: | Yed [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
LOL!! I love the kitten mittens!!  I actually kinda like the idea of giving griffons innate dig. |
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| Author: | woahboy [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
By the way. You can not dig underwater, via shovel or dig spell. Yet there is allllllllll kinds of stuff buried in underwater rooms. |
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| Author: | grep [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Griffons should not need shovels |
To test this, I went outside and picked up some dirt. I put the dirt in a new location. I then went back to where I started, and I picked up more dirt. Eventually, a hole appeared. Shovels represent a real loss in SK's potential to capitalize on the importance of perceived control: rather than forbid someone the ability to do something, which has rarely seemed like SK's intention, digging without a shovel should simply involve an increased move point cost based on a calculation of the race of the digger and the terrain variables as used to in calculations relating to the track skill. This way possession of a shovel isn't a requirement, but instead a loadout consideration. Do you want to have the extra inventory in order to save move costs when you need to dig? You now have a tactical decision instead of a rather silly requirement. The whole shovel system in general is a source of cognitive dissonance with SK's paradigms as demonstrated with item levels, and I cannot help but feel that it should be clarified before we put any faith in a nascent crafting system. |
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