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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:30 am 
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You know, I find it's kind of funny, how aged characters that have stuck in a single cabal get to perceive things through the months.

Back when I was given the Harlie leader flag, the Harlies were all about "freedom of doing whatever you want, without being tied down by restrictive leaders". It's how it was described to me, how I tried to run it.

People whined, because
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Harleys have just turned into a worthless organization with no goals/projects/areas of influence.


Okay, so I was a bad leader. Never asked for it anyway. Times passed, others took up the leadership. I even took a few weeks' break and came back, happy that the cabal was still going strong.

It now had two leaders that did stuff like, organize alliances. Talk to other factions. Deciding what they want to do and then directed the Cabal to do it, in simple orders given as suggestions and advices. When I came back, we had two ongoing wars and both those wars ended with the other party surrendering. So, hey, the new leadership is good, right? Heck, I even shot Belenort close to death with a BALLISTA, for crying out loud (which just shows what a newb I'm in PK, as I had mode stun on).

Yeah, okay, so we may have one of the worst CRS Logs in the history of CRS (yeah, the one with the Fists), but it's effort, right? It's something.

Yet, people still whine because...

Hello Kitty wrote:
Harleys have just turned into a worthless organization with no goals/projects/areas of influence.


So, no. I'm sorry "Hello Kitty" if Ellyji was restricted and wasn't left alone to run around and do whatever he wanted without any limitations AND also had the demand that hte rest of Cabal help -him-. That's not what a team does. At least, not a team that has two people calling the shots and supposedly, everyone else following that.

I never had enough interaction with Ellyji, so I can't offer an opinion on whether I liked him or not, but the bottom line is, you wanted out because the rest of the group you were in didn't want to go your way. And then, you deleted because you didn't feel like you are having fun.

Rage delete I say. Have fun with your next.


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:26 am 
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Ellyji was a good character, I had some fun with him a few times. Too bad things had to turn out that way and he had to take advantage of Vereina's trigger happy attitude and take that orb, tried to have him return it willingly but he didn't listen and now he's burnt to a crackly crunch.

Still hope you come back and hopefully we can enjoy more times interacting.

Gnome rogue was what I liked about him the most, too many people try to makle the most overpowering race/class combo to win and he went with something I've never seen before in my time playing SK, GL with the next.


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:21 pm 
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Toji,

You have no idea what you are talking about really. I was tarnished and basically abandoned by the Harleys for not returning the Earth Orb, which I didn't even take. I picked it up from a pile of Vereina's crap which anyone could've gotten. I also told Adwaliwyr where that pile was so he'd quit whining about the rest of his things. I did not initiate any war. When I was told I had to return an item because the Druids were more powerful than us and that we needed to avoid a war, I'd heard enough. I don't care if any of the Harleys want to PK with me, but you certainly don't throw me out to dry over an item that "supposedly" sacred to the Druids, because you're scared. This was rage delete, certainly, rage that the Harleys have absolutely no direction. Even admittedly NO direction would be better. "Hey, we're just havin fun and doin what we want." But really, the people who are Harleys now, save a few, probably don't use one single Harley ability for RP, PK, PvE, or any other conceivable purpose. They are just...there.


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:37 pm 
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That's kind of funny. Marietta has the earth orb that belonged to Adwaliwyr. Ellyji would have found the one that Vinoria had.

On topic, I liked Ellyji, except when he helped gangrape Tarconus. I'm sure if I had managed to get in the same room as you after that, I'd have ganked you, but oh well.


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:57 pm 
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Hello Kitty wrote:
Toji,

You have no idea what you are talking about really. I was tarnished and basically abandoned by the Harleys for not returning the Earth Orb, which I didn't even take. I picked it up from a pile of Vereina's crap which anyone could've gotten. I also told Adwaliwyr where that pile was so he'd quit whining about the rest of his things. I did not initiate any war. When I was told I had to return an item because the Druids were more powerful than us and that we needed to avoid a war, I'd heard enough. I don't care if any of the Harleys want to PK with me, but you certainly don't throw me out to dry over an item that "supposedly" sacred to the Druids, because you're scared. This was rage delete, certainly, rage that the Harleys have absolutely no direction. Even admittedly NO direction would be better. "Hey, we're just havin fun and doin what we want." But really, the people who are Harleys now, save a few, probably don't use one single Harley ability for RP, PK, PvE, or any other conceivable purpose. They are just...there.


All I see when I read this is some PK hungry fool who doesn't want to stand alone as he gets free kills as a rogue.

As for whatever you mentioned regarding why the Harleys told you to give it back, you should have done it whatever the reasoning behind it. People get leader for a
reason, sorry that you believe you have some right to just stand out against everyone and still maintain the specific abilities given to a certain group of people. Key word being group. That is a dogmatic character joining the fists and PKing whoever he wanted without saying he is a monk. "Im just in it for the phat skills I get"


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:14 pm 
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There are people that get into cabals, and don't think they should listen to the leadership. These people have no business in cabals or tribunals.

Personally, I blame cabal and tribunal leaders for not being more selective in their membership. I include myself in this as well.

Ellyji annoyed the [REDACTED] out of me as a player. I hate needing to turn quiet mode on, but the verbal diarrhea you exhibited with this character demanded that I do such.


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:19 pm 
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I am on this bandwagon. Suck it up princess- I guess you did the right thing to get out when you couldn't have your way.


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:19 pm 
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Ellyji killed 4 people btw. Call him pk crazy if u want. He killed atreidan, tarconus, keytokweh, and bronth. He was totally geared around fun rp. I never wanted the harleys to start a war. Just dont demand from your gnome thief that he return some item that he found on the ground or else!


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:16 pm 
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I really don't see the point of arguing on your death thread. You were first asked to give an item to avoid a war. You said no.
You were then told to give an item to avoid a war. You still said no.
Some tomfoolery went down, and the end decision was "Okay, hold on to it, but since you're so cooperative, you're on your own on this matter, oh and you're not tarnished to give you a fighting chance". You whined about never getting any help anyway.
Then you got killed by the Druids.
Then you asked to have your stuff retrieved, which judging by the above summary obviously didn't happen.
Then you asked to leave the cabal.
Then you deleted.

It's all VERY straight forward and simple, there is absolutely no point of arguing. You wanted one thing, the cabal did not. Period. Seriously enjoy your next.


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 Post subject: Re: Ellyji Turwyln
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:58 am 
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Kat wrote:
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You mean, uh, his SPOUSE?

As for the rest of this post: :o


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