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Retired folks
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Author:  TheX [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:15 am ]
Post subject:  Retired folks
This is way too much of a time sink for the fun. The player counts are back down which means I have sat in the afterlife for over and hour twidling my thumbs. Tired of it. You have no reason to play the game past GM, you get your gear you pk only when you know you can win wash rinse repeat. There is nothing to work for, we can't change the game, we can't altar the face of it. You have a hell of a time getting an imm to listen half the time. So [REDACTED] it.

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o You have earned 14 loyalty tokens with this character. o
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o You are over one-third of the way to the next level. o
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o Status: Grandmaster(1) Race: Sprite Class: Warlock o
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o [Scores] Rai Xhu Lightning Rat. o
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o Coins: zero o
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o You have just begun your journey to the next level. o
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o [Scores] Zyxl Blase' Girl. o
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o You are standing. o
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o You have earned 2 loyalty tokens with this character. o
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o You have just begun your journey to the next level. o
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o You are standing. o
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o You have earned 8 loyalty tokens with this character. o
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o You have 6 unspent loyalty tokens in total. o
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o You still have a long way to go before the next level. o
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o Coins: zero o
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o You are standing. o
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o You have earned 1 loyalty tokens with this character. o
o You have spent 20 loyalty tokens with this character. o
o You can spend 5 loyalty tokens for this character. o
o You have 6 unspent loyalty tokens in total. o
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o You have just begun your journey to the next level. o
o You have played 173 hour(s) so far. o
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Author:  TheX [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: So tired of not having a way to life or people to intera
You can label me as a problem player now, because this games "grand vision" is being overseen by a petulant child that has no ability to look at something and admit wrong doing. If he had any [REDACTED] sense he would listen to the "problem" players and fix the damn things needed to make this game playable, the number one thing being players, which you can't seem to keep, I wonder why the [REDACTED] not?
Author:  saxifragaceae [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: So tired of not having a way to life or people to intera
I'd really like to see the permabans lifted on some problem players. Meh.

Some of the permabans just seem like decade-old grudges that come to a head when someone who doesn't like that player gets an IMM position.
Author:  Kirsenvar [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: So tired of not having a way to life or people to intera
I’d have to agree with that sentiment , banning them has just hurt the game altogether.
Author:  saxifragaceae [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: So tired of not having a way to life or people to intera
Kirsenvar wrote:
I’d have to agree with that sentiment , banning them has just hurt the game altogether.


yep.

many of the permabanned players will never return anyway, so i just wish we could bury the hatchet for now.

and punishing players because they say mean things on another website is also stupid, especially since this place is so censored. just exercise some self-restraint and don't read stuff there if you find it too upsetting.
Author:  TacoRobot [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: So tired of not having a way to life or people to intera
This largely seems like incoherent ranting.

The only thing here worth discussing is how PK has been completely neutered over and over by staff's behavior and code changes.
Author:  Bones [ Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: So tired of not having a way to life or people to intera
Bash is useless. This is really bothering me.
Author:  Trosis [ Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: So tired of not having a way to life or people to intera
Objectively, the issue with PK goes both ways.

Steps have been taken to ensure that someone can get back on their feet quicker than ever before. Redeem resurrect and retrieve. Tribunal outfit. Tribunal resurrect. Things like that makes the death less painful.

But the nerf to bash and trip really was the death of PK in SK.

It’s tough because pk makes people want the play. The conflict makes people want to fight. It’s fun to get your heart pumping. But at the same time, if someone loses, they might quit because of the work it takes to fully re-equip. So how do you really balance that? Changes have been made to try and make it easier to live after pk. But most of the time, you’ll still get looted.

I know nobody wants to accept the kid gloves. But what about making happy hour some sort of “safe pk time” where if you were pk’d the adventurers guild would pick you up. Insta rez and all your gear. Could recycle code from duel kill.
This might promote more frequent pk and would let people improve at pk so that they can get the guts to pk throughout the other hours of the day.
If you win a couple scraps, you’d be more inclined to fight when it matters. But if you’re too scared to PK and get better because you might lose your loot, you’ll never improve.

If TheX could have done more risky PK with less consequence, he might be willing to take on those 2v4 fights. And he might have more fun. And he might not rage quit because he can’t use trib resurrect or redeem resurrect.

Anyway. Yada yada yada two cents.
Author:  BAI7l7 [ Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Retired folks
I don't think there is not enough motivation behind revamping the life cycle of a player to attract more players.

Just have to accept the game as it is and let people come and go and hope more people come than go.
Author:  Kirsenvar [ Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Retired folks
That’s a pretty dismal hope
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