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| Author: | Baranov [ Wed May 27, 2015 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
I would consider providing this information regularly as a great step towards one of the currently proclaimed objectives of the staff. Promoting player interaction. It has been the premise of a number of alterations and I see little reason why it couldn't serve as the premise for encouraging lists such as Thuban posted. There is the added benefit of helping with organization and keeping track of what's what for those putting those grueling hours into modding areas. For example. <Insert Imm> writes this <insert area> has received this many <insert hours> of work as of <insert dates>. My reaction is simple! Oh hey, an area just got an overhaul and they spent a lot of time on it? I better log on and rustle up some people and go on a fun trip! Therefore player interaction! That is the way I see it. Also, thank you Thuban for posting that in the first place. I appreciate it greatly. |
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| Author: | Doobert [ Thu May 28, 2015 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
I concur, many thanks to Thuban. Normally I would have looked at some of the mentioned areas and just been like, "Meh been there, done that." But knowing that there's new things to explore motivates me to get people off their a$$ and go do stuff. Tired of this game being only war war war war war. Much respect to Thuban for this as well as a few other things Thuban has done to make this game more fun. IMM of the year award goes to you, buddy. Sorry D 
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| Author: | Dulrik [ Thu May 28, 2015 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
Actually, I completely agree that Thuban has been knocking it out of the park. |
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| Author: | Nashira-2016 [ Thu May 28, 2015 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
As a transparency guy myself, I was supportive of Thuban's decision to post a quick summary of recent building efforts. We might've done something similar during the Great Rebalance of 2014, but we saw how much venom that produced, and it was hard not to become jaded, even an optimist and humanist like myself. Now that the forums seem a somewhat happier, more respectful place, I think it's absolutely worthwhile to continue to foster healthy communication between the staff and the players. A little transparency can go a long way. That said, a monthly build announcement isn't intended to be a detailed log (despite "log" in the subject) or represent full disclosure. However you may personally feel about it, we don't intend to become accountable in that way. At the end of the day, it's a teaser. Thuban doesn't intend to include every little building detail. I fixed dozens of bugs and typos this month, for example. But that's not sexy. If you see something in the announcement, more than likely it's something we think may be worth you taking a closer look. Or not. Value add. Even the bug fixes he has listed are the sort which may have an impact on PvE, generally speaking. I'm glad some of you see this as a step in the right direction, and I understand some of you will feel it doesn't go far enough. As always, respectful and thoughtful suggestions are welcome. |
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| Author: | Nashira-2016 [ Thu May 28, 2015 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
Dulrik wrote: Actually, I completely agree that Thuban has been knocking it out of the park. +1. Much of the staff has been less active the past couple/few months than we might've liked, but Thuban has been picking up our slack and more. |
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| Author: | Gann [ Thu May 28, 2015 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
Nashira wrote: I'm glad some of you see this as a step in the right direction, and I understand some of you will feel it doesn't go far enough. As always, respectful and thoughtful suggestions are welcome. Are you sure about that? I had a post removed/deleted in this thread that didn't break any forum rules that I know about. It merely suggested that SK should consider a splash page to announce events, updates and changes similar to other highly ranked MUDs on the Top Mud Sites list. |
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| Author: | Nashira-2016 [ Thu May 28, 2015 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
I think yours was just swept up with other posts which were moderated, sorry. Here it is, for posterity: Gann wrote: That is a cynical way of looking at it, since the former position was just silly. I would evaluate decisions based on one thing: will it increase the player count? I decided to take a look at the top 10 on Top Mud Sites after I voted, and I noticed a familiar with pattern with almost all of their websites: a splash page that highlights news, events and developments - including changes to zones, equipment, abilities and bug fixes. They don't bury it on a forum or tell their players that "they have no expectation to be informed" about changes. Personally, I would like SK to follow suit. Seeing a splash page with news, events and a change log could attract players because it makes the game appear to be evolving and alive. I believe the "cynical" comment was in response to the idea that players should feel pleased that they've gone from not being informed about specific building efforts to being somewhat informed about some building efforts? Fair play, though I can see it both ways. |
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| Author: | Gann [ Thu May 28, 2015 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
Thanks. =) It would probably be bad form to name the MUDs, since that might be construed as advertising, but if you visit Top Mud Sites right now - the #1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 MUDs all have a news/announcements section on their main page that gives information about new zones, events, code changes, etc. I would like for SK to have something like that on the main page. |
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| Author: | Nashira-2016 [ Fri May 29, 2015 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
Why can't we be more like #3 or #7? |
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| Author: | Gann [ Fri May 29, 2015 8:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Builder Update Feedback |
Nashira wrote: Why can't we be more like #3 or #7? Even their websites are more attractive than this one and more likely to draw in players, in my opinion. =) They're just not as good as the rest of the Top 10. The main page for shatteredkingdoms.org could really use an overhaul. |
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