Shattered Kingdoms

This is why you can't parry cleave...

(If you can parry cleave I'm a fool)

You can only shield block and dodge it. (I think)

Counterstrike too.

Most large weapons were made as a counter to heavier armor. During medieval times most battles did not involve the chopping of head or limbs off, but of crushing the opponent's tin can in such a way they will crush their ribs and let them suffocate to death. The weakest part of the armor would be the legs, hit the leg and break it, then they can bleed to death and not move. Therefore, a big swing from a large sword won't be aimed to find a kink in the armor to cut the body in two, so it would be easy to duck or dodge it if you aren't in big 70lb armor yourself.

What I like is backstabbing barbarians, and shield blocking the counterstrike... unfortunatelly the occurance ratio for this is very low.

What? The arms and legs were the weakest part of the armor but only because the breastplate protected all of the vital organs. Weapons such as poleaxes were invented to combat heavy armor. And it wasn't the axe part that was used, it was the reverse end with the blunt hammer that was used to strike the armor. The armor would deflect cutting and slashing weapons but people who took blunt blows took massive damage to their vitals as it offered no protection to that. It would also glance arrows off that were shot from distances greater than 20 meters. But once an archer shot closer than that distance it'd puncture straight through the breastplate. That's just because the arrow starts to lose a lot of velocty after that distance, and therefore loses it's power.

Also armor was masterfully crafted (it was made for the rich, not the poor. Poor people were armed with sticks with nails in them and that was about it). The suits weighed only 40-50 lbs (about 20kg), so they were not overly cumbersome as is usually the case thought. A knight knocked down in full plate armor was completely capable of getting up on his own. Ninjas could still perform their ninjutsu if so desired.

Plate armor was good enough to stop bullets in it's day. There's some tale about some Australian guy (can't remember his name at the time, though he's some sort of national hero and the Aussies are going to roast me on this one) back in the 1700 or 1800's that made plate armor to stop bullets but didn't make any armor for his legs and so the law enforcement shot out his legs to bring him down.

Eventually though, better guns were developed.

Also, unless someone specifically nails you to a cross through your hands and feet, the legs and arms don't take as serious damage as say...getting stabbed in the gut straight through your stomach or intestines.

Enter.... Reckless Kelly.

Remember that the 40-50lb armor was for men who were at that time on average 5'4". To make full-plate for the average size today 5'10" would weigh about 60-90lbs. The suit that I tried on, 5'8", weighed a little over 60lbs. I forgot exactly, it was almost 10yrs ago.

It's not so much the weight of the things as it is the placement of the actual armor. The way that the plates are placed (at least from my experiences in wearing full steel), makes it difficult to walk or run in the armor. Though, I've also learned, that a well placed palm to the chest for a fully suited person is enough to make them fall over and snap their neck.

what are all of you talking about? Make your own thread on the history of plate armor and Kelly if you want, this is a discussion on enhanced parry being dodged. If you can't add to the conversation, see your way out (that leaves almost everyone but imms out at this point).

Leaves you out too, punk.