Shattered Kingdoms

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. How exactly would -you- have it be?

As it is now with 5 images, MI gives an 84% chance to avoid "I win" skills/spells, getting ganked generally(No FoD/petrify, no bash once summoned, no cleave, no ambush etc etc etc) and bying time to just quaff word.

MI obtained from scrolls/staves/wands/scripts should not give more than 2 images IMO to be balanced.

GM sorcs casting it for 5 images, I still consider it overpowered(combined with the normal situation I mentioned before - which Kuroki means almost 0 preparation, a sorc can summon a charmie, enlarge the store bought +3 MP tanso that he has enchanted to +6 MP, give it the +7/+7 weapon and he has the sick tank with a pet behind). But leave 5 images for sorcs I guess, since the power of the spell should rise as they gain levels.

An even better approach since MI is usually provided from scrolls is the scrolls to work like vials of spirit aura work. Small tomes from example will add 1 mirror image, powerful scrolls add 2 images. Same on staves/wands depending on their level, with an upper limit at 2 images.

And all these since D doesn't want AoE attacks to wipe out all images as it makes sense. So, modify like above and make AoE attacks to hit the MIed PC anyway, but leave the images there.

That would balance the most overpowered defensive spell of SK atm.

I would agree with that. A better example would be stone skin. Quaffed stone skin on really good vials gives what? Four? That is really toned down over the fifteen of a GM. Quaffed stone skin really only protects against cleaves and double backstabs. I'd agree with everyday mirro image from scrolls and such only giving two reflections. Hero amulets/unique GM scritped items/GM sorc however shoulds till be able to get the full five.

Yeah, it is a little weird that weak charges of mirror image still gives full amount of images and just lowers the duration.

The duration is still like 5 mins.

My problem is not with spells vs. MI but dirt kick vs. MI. I mean, most casters fighting other casters with MI either have it themselves or have a very fast spammable spell to drop them fast (magic missile, for instance). It takes a warrior twice as long to wear down the images, assuming they can't reach the caster with a reaching weapon (probably).

Do you guys even use scrolls of MI? The duration is like 30+ minutes. All talking out of your butts here on the numbers, heh.

MI obtained from scrolls/staves/wands/scripts should not give more than 2 images IMO to be balanced.

I agree completely with this.

I just checked and the number of mirror images for potions is the result of a bug. (It was checking level of the person quaffing, not the level of the potion.) That will definitely be fixed after next update.

Potions only? How about scrolls?

I've timed them before. A 'weak' powered scroll, such as small tomes, and 95% of store-bought blank scrolls out there, are all roughly real life 20 minutes. A 'powerful' charge is roughly 30 minutes, about the same time elementals are around for, unless recently changed.

On topic, I really like the idea of varying images depending on the strength of the blank scrolls. As it is, scrolls are instant recite and character gains the ultimate defense. The other day I found out a 'weak' powered scroll of etherealform is only 2 ticks, just like spirit aura on weak potion. Fair enough.