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 Post subject: Changing targets mid combat...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:40 pm 
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Quote:
[HP:100%] [ME: 79%] [PE: 77%]
> > You quaff a small porcelain flask of heal.
A warm feeling fills your body.
A spirit steed misses a fire elemental.
Spirits manifest around a truculent male human, but appear unable to harm you.
Your deadly wrath barely hits a truculent male human's waist.
Spirits manifest around a truculent male human, but appear unable to harm you.
Your deadly wrath lightly hits a truculent male human's right arm.
A truculent male human parries your attack.
Spirits manifest around a truculent male human, but appear unable to harm you.
Your deadly wrath starts a truculent male human's right arm on fire.
Spirits manifest around a truculent male human, but appear unable to harm you.
Your deadly wrath lightly hits a truculent male human's left arm. <--notice my target

You parry a truculent male human's attack.
You parry a truculent male human's attack.
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
Your shield blocks a truculent male human's attack.
Cyquoan crushes a fire elemental's stomach, bashing a deep gash.
Cyquoan misses a fire elemental.
You dodge a fire elemental's attack.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon a fire elemental as it charges you.
A fire elemental's flaming bite is deflected by aA fire elemental's flaming bite is deflected by an adamantite plate fauld etched with a fiery sword from your waist.
Garictol stabs a fire elemental's chest, causing a deep gash.
Garictol stabs a fire elemental's left arm, ripping flesh as if it were butter!
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a black-haired male half-elf charges through them.
A black-haired male half-elf's slice at your chest is deflected by a spiked adamantite cuirass.
You dodge a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
You dodge a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
Overall, a truculent male human has some small wounds and bruises.
[HP:100%] [ME: 79%] [PE: 77%]
> >
A black-haired male half-elf tries to disarm you, but fails.
[HP:100%] [ME: 79%] [PE: 77%]
> >
A dark-pelted male centaur utters the words, 'qaiz ay qare'.
A spirit steed feels frostbitten as he is blindsided by a dark-pelted male centaur's cone of cold!
Garictol feels frostbitten as he is blindsided by a dark-pelted male centaur's cone of cold!
A dark-pelted male centaur's cone of cold breaks Buresion's mirror image.
Cyquoan barely dodges as a dark-pelted male centaur's cone of cold freezes the air around him.
Suddenly a cone of cold washes over you and you feel frostbitten!
[HP: 90%] [ME: 79%] [PE: 77%]
> >
A truculent male human slams into you and sends you sprawling!
Your armor protects you from the physical affects of a truculent male human's bash.
[HP: 90%] [ME: 79%] [PE: 77%]
> >
A spirit steed misses a fire elemental.
Your deadly wrath starts to melt a fire elemental's left arm.
Your deadly wrath hits a fire elemental's chest.
You demolish a fire elemental's left arm with your deadly wrath.
Your deadly wrath hits a fire elemental's waist.
A fire elemental dodges your attack. <---notice how i changed to targetting the elemental?

Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
A truculent male human stabs your face, slightly puncturing your cheek.
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
A truculent male human stabs your head, causing a small scratch on your forehead.
You parry a truculent male human's attack.
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
Your shield blocks a truculent male human's attack.
Cyquoan crushes a fire elemental's stomach, opening a painful, bleeding wound!
You dodge a fire elemental's attack.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon a fire elemental as it charges you.
A fire elemental's flaming bite slightly singes your right leg.
Garictol stabs a fire elemental's chest, causing a gaping wound!
Garictol stabs a fire elemental's left elbow! a fire elemental howls in pain!
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a black-haired male half-elf charges through them.
A black-haired male half-elf sliceA black-haired male half-elf slices your right finger, scratching it slightly.
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a black-haired male half-elf charges through them.
A black-haired male half-elf's slice at your right arm is deflected by a pair of etched mitten gauntlets.
You parry a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
You dodge a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
Overall, a fire elemental looks pretty hurt.
[HP: 85%] [ME: 79%] [PE: 77%]


That's the full, unedited snippet. There are no rescues, or changes in group formation. How come it switched?

It happens soon after, same battle:

Quote:
[HP: 47%] [ME: 85%] [PE: 88%]
> quaff heal

A black-haired male half-elf dodges a spirit steed's attack.
A black-haired male half-elf parries your attack.
A black-haired male half-elf dodges your attack.
Your deadly wrath lightly hits a black-haired male half-elf's left arm.
Your deadly wrath starts a black-haired male half-elf's left arm on fire.
A black-haired male half-elf dodges your attack.

Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
Your shield blocks a truculent male human's attack.
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
A truculent male human stabs your chest, making a small but painful wound.
You dodge a truculent male human's attack.
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
Your shield blocks a truculent male human's attack.
You parry a truculent male human's attack.
A black-haired male half-elf dodges Cyquoan's attack.
A black-haired male half-elf dodges Cyquoan's attack.
Garictol stabs a black-haired male half-elf's chest, making a small but painful, wound.
A black-haired male half-elf parries Garictol's attack.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon a black-haired male half-elf as he charges you.
A black-haired male half-elf slices at yourA black-haired male half-elf slices at your left wrist, causing a big gash.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon a black-haired male half-elf as he charges you.
Your shield blocks a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon a black-haired male half-elf as he charges you.
Your shield blocks a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon a black-haired male half-elf as he charges you.
A black-haired male half-elf's slice at your chest is deflected by a spiked adamantite cuirass.
Overall, a black-haired male half-elf has quite a few wounds.
[HP: 43%] [ME: 85%] [PE: 88%]
> >
A dark-pelted male centaur utters the words, 'qaiz ay qare'.
A spirit steed feels frostbitten as he is blindsided by a dark-pelted male centaur's cone of cold!
Garictol feels frostbitten as he is blindsided by a dark-pelted male centaur's cone of cold!
A dark-pelted male centaur's cone of cold breaks Buresion's mirror image.
Cyquoan feels frostbitten as he is blindsided by a dark-pelted male centaur's cone of cold!
Suddenly a cone of cold washes over you and you feel frostbitten!
[HP: 32%] [ME: 85%] [PE: 88%]
> get all.heal kna

A dark-pelted male centaur starts to concentrate.
[HP: 32%] [ME: 85%] [PE: 88%]
> ret water

A nonchalant male human starts to concentrate.
[HP: 32%] [ME: 85%] [PE: 88%]
> >
A black-haired male half-elf parries a spirit steed's bare fist!
Skillfully, A black-haired male half-elf slices at a spirit steed's right arm, severing it!
Your deadly wrath lightly hits a dark-pelted male centaur's chest.
Your deadly wrath hits a dark-pelted male centaur's chest.
Your deadly wrath starts to melt a dark-pelted male centaur's chest.
You demolish a dark-pelted male centaur's chest with your deadly wrath.

A dark-pelted male centaur gallops northeast.
A dark-pelted male centaur has fled!
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
A truculent male human stabs your face, slightly puncturing your cheek.
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
A truculent male human stabs your chest, causing a deep gash.
You parry a truculent male human's attack.
You parry a truculent male human's attack.
Your ancestral spirits manifest, but a truculent male human charges through them.
A truculent male human stabs your chest, causing a deep gash.
Cyquoan crushes a black-haired male half-elf's chest, causing a deep gash.
Cyquoan misses a black-haired male half-elf.
A black-haired male half-elf ripostes Garictol's attack!
A black-haired male half-elf slices Garictol's chest, cutting a small but painful, wound.
A black-haired male half-elf dodges Garictol's attack.
A black-haired male half-elf dodges Garictol's attack.
You parry a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
You parry a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon a black-haired male half-elf as he charges you.
Your shield blocks a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
You parry a black-haired male half-elf's attack.
Overall, a truculent male human has some small wounds and bruises.
[HP: 29%] [ME: 85%] [PE: 88%]

Once again, no rescue is performed, nor formation changed. Nor taunt.

edit: only thing I can think of is a cabal ability that I'm not aware of, in which case feel free to delete/cut out this post and I'll take the hint.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:57 pm 
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It's because of the way group combat works, and has worked for quite a while. This isn't an old problem, and I think most people have just gotten used to it by now. However, imho, I think it has something to do with npc AI and the way auto assist & groups works.

Is this really a bug?

I hate the RL defense, but in a fight I can imagine ppl running around and kinda getting crazy - ppl getting thrown into eachother, hit someone else on accident, etc, ad nauseum.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:26 pm 
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if it really is an unccorectable bug or intentional feature, then shouldn't the kill command be lagless? that way even if you do attack a different target in combat, you can plan to start the next round of fighting by hitting them. If it's so easy to change targets away, it should be easy to change back.

P.S. I had 3 pcs (one dropped out real fast) and 2 NPCs in melee combat with me, and not a single one of them switched away. None of my friends switched either, I believe. I still feel like there is a specific trigger for switching targets, btu the only connecting links seems to be the spell damage. Perhaps i automatically switched to the person in front of the warlock, sinec i couldn't strike them with a nonreaching weapon?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:11 pm 
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The NPC AI automatically targets the opponent doing the most damage, usually.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:48 pm 
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You parry a confident male human's attack.
Your shield blocks a confident male human's attack.
A confident male human slices at your chest, barely scratching you.
You parry a confident male human's attack.
A confident male human ripostes your attack!
A confident male human slices your chest, cutting a small but painful wound.
A confident male human ripostes your attack!
A confident male human slices at your face, slightly scratching your cheek.
A confident male human parries your attack.
A confident male human parries your attack.
A confident male human parries your attack.

Overall, a confident male human has some small wounds and bruises.
[HP: 89%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
> >
Frollith gets a slight oaken staff from a friar's robe.
[HP: 89%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
>
A short female deep-elf brandishes an opal-tipped staff.
[HP: 89%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
> >
Frollith holds a slight oaken staff in his hand.
[HP: 89%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
Buresion utters the words, 'pabraw'.
Buresion gesticulates and suddenly a confident male human is vomiting as his organs twist!
[HP: 89%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
> >
Buresion starts to concentrate.
[HP: 89%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
Frollith brandishes a slight oaken staff.
Frollith fades into existence.
Frollith gesticulates and suddenly a confident male human is vomiting as his organs twist!
Frollith gesticulates and suddenly a short female deep-elf is vomiting as her organs twist!
Frollith gesticulates and suddenly a Centurio is vomiting as his organs twist!
[HP: 89%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
> > You slam into a confident male human and send him sprawling!
A confident male human's armor protects him from the physical affects of your bash.
Your shield blocks a confident male human's attack.
A confident male human's slice at your chest is deflected by a spiked adamantite cuirass.
A confident male human slices at your chest, causing a deep gash.
A confident male human's slice at your chest is deflected by a spiked adamantite cuirass.
Your deadly wrath barely hits a Centurio's chest.
Your deadly wrath lightly hits a Centurio's waist.
Your deadly wrath hits a Centurio's waist.
Your deadly wrath lightly hits a Centurio's left arm.
Your deadly wrath lightly hits a Centurio's chest.

You can't see a thing!
Someone's punch at your chest is deflected by something.
Your shield blocks someone's attack.
Overall, someone has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
[HP: 85%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]


This is driving me nuts. Every time there's any sort of area effecting spell/stave, we change targets???


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:50 am 
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You know what...the goblins do it too :rant:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:44 am 
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Kilia wrote:
You know what...the goblins do it too :rant:


You mean they change targets to you if they're attacking your pet? All NPCs do this. It's put there for balance reasons, I believe- otherwise it'd be even easier to level (pet would always take damage).


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