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Author:  Adder [ Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Formation/trip bug

I've noticed this problem before but this is a much more obvious example than usual. Sorry for the length but it's required to adaquately describe the situation, and this is far too complicated to just bug log.

Nospam is off and I'm wielding two nonreaching, very fast and very accurate weapons.

Quote:
A cloaked and cowled woman skulks amongst the shadows.
A dwarven man is here, tending to some wild beasts.
A man sits here, contentedly whittling by the fire.
[HP: 95%] [ME:100%] [PE: 73%]
> o all k lyle
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Lyle's chest, barely scratching him.
Ok.
[HP: 99%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%]
>
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Lyle.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Lyle's stomach, barely scratching him.
Lyle dodges a broad-shouldered black bear's attack.
You slice at Lyle's left hand, cutting a small wound.
You slice Lyle's right finger, scratching it slightly.
You slice at Lyle's stomach, barely scratching him.
You slice at Lyle's chest, barely scratching him.
You slice Lyle's stomach, causing a small wound.
Lyle slashes at a broad-shouldered black bear's chest, causing a deep gash.
Lyle slashes at a broad-shouldered black bear's left arm, tearing open a big bleeding wound!
Kysha pierces at a broad-shouldered black bear's stomach, smashing a deep gash.
Echar the Beastmaster punches at a broad-shouldered black bear's chest, causing a deep gash.
Echar the Beastmaster punches at your chest, barely wounding you.
You dodge Echar the Beastmaster's attack.
Overall, Lyle has a few scratches.
[HP: 98%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%]


All three are front row, I glanced them in advance. This continues for several rounds till Lyle is low on hp, and he gets rescued...

Quote:
[HP: 76%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%]
> sta

A broad-shouldered black bear misses Lyle.
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Lyle.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Lyle's head, causing a small but painful wound.
Lyle dodges your attack.
You slice Lyle's stomach. Boy does BLOOD look red!
You slice at Lyle's stomach. ENTRAILS fall to the ground!
You dodge Kysha's attack.
You dodge Kysha's attack.
Echar the Beastmaster punches at your chest, causing a deep gash.
You dodge Echar the Beastmaster's attack.
You jump out of the way as Lyle kicks the dirt in front of you!
Lyle punches at your chest, causing a deep gash.
Overall, Lyle looks pretty hurt.
[HP: 72%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%]
>
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Lyle.
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Lyle.
Lyle dodges a broad-shouldered black bear's attack.
You slice Lyle's right arm, tearing flesh as if it were butter!
You slice Lyle's right elbow! he howls in pain!
You slice at Lyle's chest, DISEMBOWELING him!
Kysha rescues Lyle!
You dodge Kysha's attack.
Echar the Beastmaster rescues Lyle!
Echar the Beastmaster punches at your chest, causing a big, bleeding wound!
Echar the Beastmaster punches at your chest, causing a big, bleeding wound!
Overall, Kysha is in excellent condition.
[HP: 70%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%]


I spam disarm for a while, disarm her, then I go for a trip...

Quote:
[HP: 65%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%]
>
A broad-shouldered black bear heaves his bulk upward and crashes down toward his opponents!
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Kysha's left arm, tearing open a big bleeding wound!
Kysha dodges a broad-shouldered black bear's attack.
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Kysha.
You slice Kysha's right arm, tearing flesh as if it were butter!
You slice Kysha's stomach. Boy does BLOOD look red!
You slice Kysha's left arm, tearing flesh as if it were butter!
You slice Kysha's right elbow! she howls in pain!
Kysha misses you.
Kysha punches at your chest, causing a big, bleeding wound!
Overall, Kysha has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
[HP: 63%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%]
> trip
You try to trip Kysha but end up tripping yourself!

[HP: 66%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
>
Kysha dodges a broad-shouldered black bear's attack.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices Kysha's right ankle, cutting a small wound.
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Kysha.
You slice at Kysha's chest, causing a deep gash.
You slice Kysha's left arm, tearing flesh as if it were butter!
You slice Kysha's chest, causing a gaping wound!
You slice Kysha's chest, causing a gaping wound!
Kysha punches at your head, causing a pulsating wound.
You dodge Kysha's attack.
Overall, Kysha looks pretty hurt.
[HP: 65%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]

A broad-shouldered black bear slices Kysha's right elbow! Kysha howls in pain!
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Kysha.
You slice Kysha's left arm, tearing flesh as if it were butter!
You slice Kysha's left elbow! she howls in pain!
You slash Kysha's left arm, cutting muscle and bone!
You slice at Kysha's chest, DISEMBOWELING her!
Echar the Beastmaster rescues Kysha!
Overall, Kysha looks pretty hurt.
[HP: 65%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]

A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Echar the Beastmaster's stomach, barely scratching it.
Echar the Beastmaster dodges a broad-shouldered black bear's attack.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Echar the Beastmaster's stomach, barely scratching it.
You slice at Echar the Beastmaster's stomach, scratching it slightly.
Echar the Beastmaster misses you.
You dodge Echar the Beastmaster's attack.

Where the hell did my "Overall, XXX is in Y condition" message go?

[HP: 65%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
>
Echar the Beastmaster quickly jumps out of the way as a broad-shouldered black bear kicks dirt into the air.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices Echar the Beastmaster's left finger, scratching it slightly.
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Echar the Beastmaster.
You slice at Echar the Beastmaster's right hand, cutting a small wound.
Echar the Beastmaster misses you.
You dodge Echar the Beastmaster's attack.
[HP: 65%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
> trip
Someone is standing in front of you.

[HP: 65%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
> inf

Group: Varin's Party
(11:F1) [ Varin] (12:F2) [a broad-shou] (13:F3) [------------]
(21:M1) [------------] (22:M2) [------------] (23:M3) [------------]
(31:B1) [------------] (32:B2) [------------] (33:B3) [------------]
Characters Rank Pos In room Follow H ME PE
Varin Leader 11:F1 Yes No 65% 100% 93%
A broad-shouldered black bear Member 12:F2 Yes Yes 77% 100% 100%
[HP: 65%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
>
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Echar the Beastmaster's chest, barely scratching it.
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Echar the Beastmaster.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Echar the Beastmaster's chest, barely scratching it.
You slice Echar the Beastmaster's stomach, causing a small wound.
You jump out of the way as Echar the Beastmaster kicks the dirt in front of you!
Echar the Beastmaster punches at your chest, causing a big, bleeding wound!
Echar the Beastmaster punches at your chest, causing a big, bleeding wound!
[HP: 63%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
>
A broad-shouldered black bear slams into Echar the Beastmaster and sends it sprawling!
A broad-shouldered black bear's bash knocks the wind out of Echar the Beastmaster.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Echar the Beastmaster's chest, barely scratching it.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Echar the Beastmaster's chest, barely scratching it.
Echar the Beastmaster dodges a broad-shouldered black bear's attack.
Echar the Beastmaster dodges your attack.
Echar the Beastmaster misses you.
You parry Echar the Beastmaster's bare fist!
You slice at Echar the Beastmaster's right wrist, causing a big gash.
[HP: 63%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]



Notice that my attacks suddenly fall to 1 a round even though i have mastered dual wield and second attack and i'm using two ridiculously fast weapons that were giving me at least 3, usually 4 every round. Maybe that's bad luck. However, I suddenly can't trip somebody that i'm in FRONT ROW combat with?

This is Echar dying, then me fighting Kysha:
Quote:
[HP: 57%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
>
Someone slices someone's left arm, cutting muscle and bone!
Someone dodges someone's attack.
Someone slices at someone's chest, DISEMBOWELING it!
You slice at someone's chest, DISEMBOWELING it!
You slice at someone's stomach. ENTRAILS fall to the ground!
Someone is mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided.
You slice someone's left arm. Someone falls to its knees and collapses!
Someone is DEAD!! Echar dies
Someone falls lifeless to the ground.
[HP: 57%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
> trip
Someone is standing in front of you.

[HP: 57%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
>
Someone dodges your attack.
[HP: 57%] [ME:100%] [PE: 93%]
> trip
Someone is standing in front of you.

You rub the dirt out of your eyes.
You can hear again.
[HP: 61%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> l

The Hall of Stealth
This hall is more like a tunnel -- low and dark. The earth surrounding
you smells clean and warm, easily dispelling the claustrophobia that such a
close space could inspire. A few dim torches are scattered about, most of
the light coming from the cooking fire and the light that the "chimney"
allows in.
Obvious exits: s sw
The corpse of Echar the Beastmaster is lying here.
The sliced-off arm of a dwarf is lying here.
(Charmed) A broad-shouldered black bear growls under his breath.
Kysha is here, fighting YOU!
A man sits here, contentedly whittling by the fire.
Lyle quickly jumps out of the way as a broad-shouldered black bear kicks dirt into the air.
You slice at Kysha's chest, DISEMBOWELING her!
A broad-shouldered black bear quickly jumps out of the way as Kysha kicks dirt into the air.
[HP: 61%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> trip
Someone is standing in front of you.
[HP: 61%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> inf

Group: Varin's Party
(11:F1) [ Varin] (12:F2) [a broad-shou] (13:F3) [------------]
(21:M1) [------------] (22:M2) [------------] (23:M3) [------------]
(31:B1) [------------] (32:B2) [------------] (33:B3) [------------]
Characters Rank Pos In room Follow H ME PE
Varin Leader 11:F1 Yes No 61% 100% 100%
A broad-shouldered black bear Member 12:F2 Yes Yes 81% 100% 100%
[HP: 61%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
Kysha dodges a broad-shouldered black bear's attack.
Kysha dodges a broad-shouldered black bear's attack.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Kysha's chest, DISEMBOWELING her!
You slash Kysha's right arm, cutting muscle and bone!
[HP: 61%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> trip
Someone is standing in front of you.

[HP: 61%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Kysha's left toe, scratching it slightly.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Kysha's face, slightly scratching her cheek.
You strike suddenly, slicing at Kysha's chest! Some GUTS fall!

[HP: 61%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
A broad-shouldered black bear slices Kysha's left arm, cutting muscle and bone!
A broad-shouldered black bear misses Kysha.
A broad-shouldered black bear slices at Kysha's head, making a small scratch.
You slice at Kysha's stomach. ENTRAILS fall to the ground!
A broad-shouldered black bear quickly jumps out of the way as Kysha kicks dirt into the air.
[HP: 61%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]

I conveniently get only one attack once again while I'm unable to trip them. In fact, I've never seen myself get less than 3 attacks with this weapon pair except when i'm unable to trip them like this for some odd reason. Coincidence? My "Overall, XXX is in Y condition" has also dissapeared from this snippet and the last one.

The bigger problem is really why the hell I can't trip.

Author:  Carsetius [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:55 am ]
Post subject: 

I think that it has to do with the rescue. I was just train in the Bak caves when the same thing happened to me. if you just re-target them, everthing goes back to normal.

Author:  Adder [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:50 am ]
Post subject: 

Carsetius wrote:
I think that it has to do with the rescue. I was just train in the Bak caves when the same thing happened to me. if you just re-target them, everthing goes back to normal.


It's still a bug then. Forcing you to retarget your opponent is a huge disadvantage in combat since it'll lag you for a round.

Author:  Fepel Veiled [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:27 am ]
Post subject: 

And break sanc, and a few other things.

Author:  WarlordPayne [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:35 am ]
Post subject: 

That bug has been around for a very long time.

Author:  Adder [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:55 am ]
Post subject: 

Fepel Veiled wrote:
And break sanc, and a few other things.


I'm not sure it would break sanc since you're already in combat. However the bug seems to be similar to what happens when you're in second row and not in contact with the target, so maybe.

Author:  Carsetius [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:51 am ]
Post subject: 

I do not think that this is a trip bug but it is a bug that has to do with rescue.

Author:  Konrin [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:35 am ]
Post subject: 

Me and wruve died to Blergan and co. because of that bug a looooong time ago. 1 attack a round for the win.

Author:  One Valiant Truth [ Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:31 pm ]
Post subject: 

If you taunt someone that is behind another person you only get one attack on the front person too. It sucks.

Author:  Adder [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:49 am ]
Post subject: 

So I guess there's no fix, or has D not seen this thread?

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