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 Post subject: Law NPCs and NPC AI targetting
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:08 am 
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OK, what does someone do when he is bored? Goes out to kill a dragon I guess. So I take my favorite law NPC, buff it up and I'm out. The idea is the NPC to initiate the battle so it will tank while I heal it and most important of all I'm not bashed to cast maledictions/dmg spells on the dragon.

As far as I knew, law NPCs were not treated like pets or anything with the (charmed) flag a PC can have. Order all doesn't give them orders, and if they initiated the victim NPCs wouldn't change their target to attack you instead of the law NPC(unlike they do with a pet or charmie or undead).

But today this strange bug happened again(it has happened once more 4-5 days ago).

Rather long log follows, moderators can remove it if it takes away so many resources from the forum server.

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[HP:100%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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o ap bash drago
Aphrominas the faceless nymph slams into an old blue dragon and sends it sprawling!
Aphrominas the faceless nymph's bash knocks the wind out of an old blue dragon.
Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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inf

An old blue dragon bites at Aphrominas the faceless nymph's chest, barely wounding her.
An old blue dragon bites at Aphrominas the faceless nymph's face, slightly puncturing her cheek.
An old blue dragon misses Aphrominas the faceless nymph.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's face, slightly bruising its cheek.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's left toe, bruising it slightly.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's right finger, bruising its slightly.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's stomach, barely wounding it.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's right hand, ripping a small wound.
A ghostfire warhorse's spirit wrench grazes an old blue dragon's right arm.
A ghostfire warhorse misses an old blue dragon.
Your spirit wrench glances off an old blue dragon's chest.
An old blue dragon looks very uncomfortable.
An old blue dragon looks tired and weak.
You give an old blue dragon a spasmodic shudder as your spirit wrench strikes its head.
Your spirit wrench glances off an old blue dragon's chest.
Your spirit wrench grazes an old blue dragon's chest.
An old blue dragon dodges a ghostfire warhorse's attack.
A ghostfire warhorse's spirit wrench grazes an old blue dragon's chest.
Overall, an old blue dragon has some small wounds and bruises.

[HP:100%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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c slow

An old blue dragon's blast of lightning hits you.

[HP: 90%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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Aphrominas the faceless nymph dodges an old blue dragon's attack.
An old blue dragon bites at Aphrominas the faceless nymph's left toe, cutting it slightly.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph dodges an old blue dragon's attack.
An old blue dragon misses Aphrominas the faceless nymph.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's right toe, bruising it slightly.
An old blue dragon dodges Aphrominas the faceless nymph's attack.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's chest, bashing a small but painful, wound.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's chest, bashing a small but painful, wound.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's stomach, barely wounding it.
Your spirit wrench grazes an old blue dragon's head.
Your spirit wrench glances off an old blue dragon's chest.
A ghostfire warhorse misses an old blue dragon.
A ghostfire warhorse's spirit wrench is deflected by supernatural hide on an old blue dragon's right arm.
Overall, an old blue dragon has some small wounds and bruises.

[HP: 90%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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An old blue dragon bites at Aphrominas the faceless nymph's stomach, barely wounding her.
An old blue dragon bites at Aphrominas the faceless nymph's chest, smashing a small but painful, wound.
An old blue dragon bites at Aphrominas the faceless nymph's left hand, ripping a small wound.
An old blue dragon misses Aphrominas the faceless nymph.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's chest, causing a deep gash.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's left ankle, gashing a small wound.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's right wrist, causing a big gash.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's right wrist, causing a big gash.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's chest, causing a deep gash.
Your spirit wrench glances off an old blue dragon's chest.
Your spirit wrench glances off an old blue dragon's chest.
A ghostfire warhorse's spirit wrench glances off an old blue dragon's waist.
Overall, an old blue dragon has some small wounds and bruises.

[HP: 90%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
>

An old blue dragon's blast of lightning maims a ghostfire warhorse!

[HP: 90%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
>

Group: Golg's Party
(11:F1) [Aphrominas t] (12:F2) [------------] (13:F3) [ Golg]
(21:M1) [------------] (22:M2) [------------] (23:M3) [------------]
(31:B1) [------------] (32:B2) [------------] (33:B3) [------------]
Characters Rank Pos In room Follow H ME PE
Golg Leader 13:F3 Yes No 90% 58% 77%
A ghostfire warhorse Member ??:?? Yes Yes 66% 100% 97%
Aphrominas the faceless nymph Member 11:F1 Yes Yes 79% 97% 90%

[HP: 90%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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You start to concentrate.

[HP: 90%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
>

Aphrominas the faceless nymph doubles over as she is struck by an old blue dragon's thrashing tail!
An old blue dragon misses Aphrominas the faceless nymph.
An old blue dragon misses Aphrominas the faceless nymph.
An old blue dragon misses Aphrominas the faceless nymph.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's left finger, bruising its slightly.
An old blue dragon dodges Aphrominas the faceless nymph's attack.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's chest, causing a big, bleeding wound!
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's left ankle, gashing a small wound.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's left leg, causing a sore wound.
A ghostfire warhorse's spirit wrench is deflected by supernatural hide on an old blue dragon's waist.
Overall, an old blue dragon has quite a few wounds.

[HP: 90%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon an old blue dragon as it charges you. <-- WTF? Out of nowhere.
An old blue dragon bites at your left finger, cutting you slightly.

[HP: 90%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
>

You utter the words, 'ghix'.
An old blue dragon is moving more slowly.
Ok

[HP: 90%] [ME: 56%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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You dodge an old blue dragon's attack.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon an old blue dragon as it charges you.
An old blue dragon bites at your right foot, causing a minor wound.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's left leg, causing a sore wound.
An old blue dragon dodges Aphrominas the faceless nymph's attack.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's stomach, bruising it slightly.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph misses an old blue dragon.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's right wrist, causing a big gash.
Your spirit wrench strikes an old blue dragon's chest.
Your spirit wrench glances off an old blue dragon's head.
A ghostfire warhorse misses an old blue dragon.
An old blue dragon dodges a ghostfire warhorse's attack.
Overall, an old blue dragon has quite a few wounds.

[HP: 88%] [ME: 56%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
>
spir h
You start to concentrate.

[HP: 88%] [ME: 56%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
>

An old blue dragon's blast of lightning grazes Aphrominas the faceless nymph.

[HP: 88%] [ME: 56%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
>

An old blue dragon gets a wild look in its eyes.
You dodge an old blue dragon's attack.
Your ancestral spirits rain curses upon an old blue dragon as it charges you.
An old blue dragon bites at your right leg, causing a sore wound.
Your shield blocks an old blue dragon's attack.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's chest, causing a big, bleeding wound!
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's head, causing a pulsating wound.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's stomach, barely wounding it.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's stomach, bruising it slightly.
Aphrominas the faceless nymph pounds an old blue dragon's stomach, causing a small wound.
A ghostfire warhorse's spirit wrench glances off an old blue dragon's left arm.
Overall, an old blue dragon has quite a few wounds.

[HP: 85%] [ME: 56%] [PE: 77%] R: Bleak rolling hills
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You utter the words, 'gsufuh pafoculo'.
Your spirit allies burst forth from your aura in a mighty horde.
An old blue dragon howls in despair as the horde screams curses upon it.
The ferocity of the spirit horde knocks an old blue dragon to the ground.

And the log continues like that, with me taking hits until the dragon dies to a spam of spirit horde/call lightning.

Where did the dragon get that one extra attack between rounds to change his target? It's not even like a tick passed or something, I didn't notice lag or change to HP/ME when this happened.

Some new NPC AI that was implemented lately? If law NPCs are treated as owned by the tribunal member, why not allow them to be orderable with order all as well then?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:58 am 
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So the dragon redirected combat, so what? This happens *all* the time with me and charms/pets. Just have the law NPC rescue you while mode aggressive to begin taking hits again without messing up formation. Also at times when a NPC/npc engages combat they will only get one swing. I've seen this hundreds of times. What happened was the AI said, "I'll eat DA now instead of his tank," and proceeded to do so.

As for order all versus order lawmob X, order all only works on charm as per code. It is not a bug but a feature.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:12 am 
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But this is the point. In the last 4-5 years that I had tribunal characters, not once has an NPC redirected his hits towards my character until the law NPC that initiated the battle was dead.

Law NPCs do(did?) not behave like charms/pets/undead that the NPCs redirected their hits towards you within the first two rounds of combat. They are considered like individuals, like a PC actually.

This is why I posted this here. And also, how elite is this dragon to get one more attack between rounds only to change target? :P


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:17 am 
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Dragons obviously are l33ter than j00. :P

As for law NPC redirecting, I think it's just you being lucky. I have been with NPCs law NPCs and charms in the same group and have had NPCs redirect mid stream from all of them to me.

You have been lucky before grasshopper, and now Sadal frowns upon you.


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