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Whats going on with with wands/staves?
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Author:  Konrin [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Whats going on with with wands/staves?

[HP: 99%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 95%]
> zap self
You zap an engraved piece of horn.
You resist the effect of your own spell.

[HP: 99%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 95%]
> zap self
You zap an engraved piece of horn.

[HP: 99%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 95%]

I had the exact same thing happen with a staff earlier. It seems to have absolutly no effect and yet it can be resisted, whats going on here?

Author:  Tumrall [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:25 pm ]
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I think you'll find that seems to be quite a weak stave and actually worked when you zapped it a second time but was not strong enough to "do it's thing".

I find you sometimes need to buy a few of them and zap and zap until it works, if at all.

Author:  Cyra [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:25 pm ]
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the spell is not affecting you obviously. It is not meeting the required number to dispel whatever effect you are wanting it to do.

It would be very helpful if you listed what the wand is -supposed- to do then go omg it doesn't work and it's triggering my magical resistance!

Author:  Konrin [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:29 pm ]
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How the hell should I know what its supposed to do. =/ I zapped it on myself and on low level opponents, in neither case did it do -anything- not even agro them so I'm assuming its a helpful spell if it has ANY spell at all now.

I had the same thing happen with what (used to be) an overpowered etherealform staff, no idea what it got nerfed to do, if it did.

Author:  Tumrall [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:00 pm ]
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It's particular spell when cast by a real player will do exactly what it did to you, even a grandmaster casting it, unless under very specific circumstances.

Author:  Konrin [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:01 pm ]
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Mm right, guess that explains it.

Author:  Fepel Veiled [ Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:37 pm ]
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Here are a few things I've noticed about magical devices over Fepel and Ghent:

Spells in scrolls/wands/staves that can only impact people cannot and should not be targetted. If you recite {target} or zap {target} most of the time they say "you can only target yourself" and they are spent. These are spells such as stone skin, ethereal form, polymorph, spell ward, et cetera.

When you zap/recite/brandish, let's just say zap from here out, it will zap the wand in your primary hand first, even if you have one in your offhand. So if you are holding a scroll in your offhand and a wand in your primary hand, remove the scroll and equip a 2nd wand, when you zap the one you did not just equip goes off, the one in your primary hand. I have branished the wrong staves *SO* many times it's not funny.

You must be the level of the device to use it. If you are not it will either give you a fail message or nothing at all. It can be very frustrating to find an uber nifty cool toy and be unable to invoke it properly.

Even if you are GM, the level of the spell is the level of the magical device. Weak scrolls of mirror image will give you only 2 or 3 images... weak wands of hellfire can and will just bounce off of people, even elves and centaurs. Know your strengths and use them accordingly.

Some benificial spells such as remove curse and a few others, even if you get it to work, won't give you a "fail" message, or a "you aren't cursed" message. Or... if you are cursed and the spell fails to remove it, you still do not get a fail message. Which I believe that is what the horn is for.

Any other mechanics questions, either PM me unless I hate you. Then please go stick your head in a pig.

Thank you,

Author:  Lolth [ Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:57 am ]
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Quote:
[HP: 99%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 95%]
> zap self
You zap an engraved piece of horn.
You resist the effect of your own spell.

[HP: 99%] [ME: 58%] [PE: 95%]
> zap self
You zap an engraved piece of horn.


I'm assuming you were trying to remove a curse from yourself. What happened here is that the level of the curse placed on you was significantly higher than the level of this wand (underpowered). Therefor, it had no effect. You'll find that the same thing can happen when a healer actually attempts to cast the spell. The higher the level of the curse, the harder it is to remove it.

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