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Author:  Drewbag [ Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  sudden unexplained int drop/concentration increase?

Summary: I have always been able to hellfire while fighting one person and detecting both hidden and invis. I get 'hold person'd and confused, after it wears off I now suddenly cannot do that. I also used to be able to hold detects in my sleep, now I can only hold one.

Quote:
Your cleave mauls Habib.

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
h <- Hellfire

Habib starts to concentrate.
You strike suddenly, cleaving at Habib's chest! Some GUTS fall!
Overall, Habib has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
You strike suddenly, cleaving at Habib's chest! Some GUTS fall!
Overall, Habib has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>You start to concentrate.

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
Habib utters the words, 'pare dudasabru'.
You can't move! This spell still blows... and lasts way too long

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
You have no knowledge of that spell! wha? I didn't change the alias

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
Overall, Habib has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
h
You are unable to move.

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
6 rounds
aff

oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o [Affects] Gavin dark Knight o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Affect: 'hold person' o
o Affect: 'faerie fire' - penalty to magical protection o
o Affect: 'detect hidden' o
o Affect: 'detect invis' o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
Habib starts to concentrate.
Overall, Habib has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
Overall, Habib has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
Habib utters the words, 'qaiyjguai'.
You feel confused!

(hp: 63%) (me: 83%) (pe: 98%)
>
...22 boring rounds
>
You regain control of yourself.
You can move again.
The breeze dies away to nothing. Hellfire time!

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
You strike suddenly, cleaving at Habib's chest! Some GUTS fall!
You cleave Habib's head, tearing open a bleeding wound!
Overall, Habib has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
h
You can't concentrate enough. PROBLEM?

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
aff

oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o [Affects] Gavin dark Knight o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Affect: 'faerie fire' - penalty to magical protection o
o Affect: 'detect hidden' o
o Affect: 'detect invis' o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
You cleave Habib's chest HARD, cutting through his ribs!
You cleave Habib's mouth, knocking out a few of his teeth!
Overall, Habib looks pretty hurt.

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
h
You can't concentrate enough.

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
att

oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o [Attributes] Gavin dark Knight o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Status: Mentor(1) Race: Half-elf Class: Hellion o
o Age: 22 Sex: Male Size: Medium o
o Alignment: Aberrant Handiness: Right handed Religion: Algorab o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o STR: Powerful INT: Brilliant WIS: Clever o
o DEX: Acrobatic CON: Durable CHA: Influential o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Carrying capacity: 21 items with a maximum weight of 304.0 pounds. o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
Habib starts to concentrate.
You cleave Habib's chest HARD, cutting through his ribs!
Overall, Habib looks pretty hurt.

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
h
You can't concentrate enough.

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 98%)
>
You cleave Habib's jaw, breaking it with a loud *SNAP*
You cleave Habib's chest HARD, cutting through his ribs!
Overall, Habib looks pretty hurt.

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 97%)
>
c 'hellfire not the alias...
You can't concentrate enough.

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 97%)
>
Habib utters the words, 'pare dudasabru'.
You can't move!

(hp: 65%) (me: 82%) (pe: 97%)
>37.... three-seven... rounds of being held and confused
You regain control of yourself.
You can move again.
The wind begins to blow from the southwest.

(hp: 68%) (me: 81%) (pe: 97%)
>
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o [Affects] Gavin dark Knight o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Affect: 'faerie fire' - penalty to magical protection o
o Affect: 'detect hidden' o
o Affect: 'detect invis' o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

(hp: 68%) (me: 81%) (pe: 97%)
>
You cleave at Habib's chest, causing a deep gash.
Overall, Habib has some small wounds and bruises.

(hp: 68%) (me: 81%) (pe: 97%)
>
h
You can't concentrate enough.

(hp: 68%) (me: 81%) (pe: 97%)
>
release all
h
You release all your spells.
You feel less aware of your surroundings.
You no longer see invisible objects.
Habib starts to concentrate.
You cleave at Habib's chest, DISEMBOWELING him!
Overall, Habib has quite a few wounds.

(hp: 68%) (me: 81%) (pe: 97%)
>You start to concentrate.

(hp: 68%) (me: 81%) (pe: 97%)
>
Habib utters the words, 'judicandus dies'.

(hp: 68%) (me: 81%) (pe: 97%)
>
You utter the words, 'pzrryucandus'. I have always been able to hellfire while detecting, unless taunted
You smell Habib's roasting flesh as you burn him with hellfire!

(hp: 68%) (me: 75%) (pe: 97%)
>
You utter the words, 'pzrryucandus'.
You smell Habib's roasting flesh as you burn him with hellfire!
Habib is stunned, but will probably recover.


right after this fight, in the inn:
Quote:
(hp: 72%) (me: 61%) (pe: 95%)
>You go to sleep.
You lose your concentration on detect hidden.
You feel less aware of your surroundings.
this has never happened before unless holding detects, protection AND shield
aff

oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o [Affects] Gavin dark Knight o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Affect: 'detect invis' o
o Affect: 'faerie fire' - penalty to magical protection o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

(hp: 72%) (me: 61%) (pe: 95%)
>
att

oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o [Attributes] Gavin dark Knight o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Status: Mentor(1) Race: Half-elf Class: Hellion o
o Age: 22 Sex: Male Size: Medium o
o Alignment: Aberrant Handiness: Right handed Religion: Algorab o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o STR: Powerful INT: Brilliant WIS: Clever o
o DEX: Acrobatic CON: Durable CHA: Influential o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Carrying capacity: 21 items with a maximum weight of 304.0 pounds. o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

release
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o # Spell Casted On Concentration o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o 1 detect invis Yourself moderate since when?! o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo


After faerie fire wears off:

Quote:
release
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o # Spell Casted On Concentration o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o 1 detect hidden Yourself light o
o 2 detect invis Yourself light o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

(hp: 100%) (me: 95%) (pe: 100%)
>
sl
You go to sleep.
You lose your concentration on detect hidden.
You feel less aware of your surroundings.


None of my gear changed, just before this fight I was detecting and hellfiring just fine.

Author:  Minette [ Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:08 pm ]
Post subject: 

Try relog.

Author:  Drewbag [ Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:24 pm ]
Post subject: 

what about this then?!

Quote:
Isn't someone just so nice?
You lose your concentration on intimidate.
You now follow someone.


intimidate is a skill right?

Author:  Goldlantern [ Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:39 pm ]
Post subject: 

Intimidate is a skill. However, it DOES take up concentration. It's a light for every thing (person/pet/whatever) you have intimidated at once, and will show up on your release list.

Author:  ObjectivistActivist [ Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:37 pm ]
Post subject: 

I've had the same problem; at the Circle, and the Chancel.

Author:  Dark-Avenger [ Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:31 pm ]
Post subject: 

It has nothing to do with NPC only spells like hold person.

It's a well known bug that can happen anytime. I have no idea what causes it, since I've seen it happening at the most random times on my characters.

Relogin will fix the problem.

PS: Alshain has promised a two level reward on anyone that finds the exact reason of this bug. :P

Author:  ObjectivistActivist [ Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:38 am ]
Post subject: 

Quote:
It has nothing to do with NPC only spells like hold person.


If you've seen it happen at other random times, that sucks for you, but it's *only* ever happened to me after confusion/hold, and it happens *every* time after confusion/hold.

Author:  Dark-Avenger [ Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:24 am ]
Post subject: 

If this is true, it won't be hard to reproduce the bug and earn a 2 level reward.

But I assure you it's not. If it has happened to me without fighting any NPCs at all, it's not related to these spells.

Author:  ObjectivistActivist [ Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:25 am ]
Post subject: 

You're right, it won't. Log to follow.

Author:  kirina [ Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:11 am ]
Post subject: 

I suspect that a modification of the release code would probably fix it.

I'm just guessing here, but if I were to be writing the code, I'd have a temporary stack that holds temporary data about a character, like cast spells, wounds taken and so on. It's my guess that something in one of the spells cast on you is corrupting that stack and adding or leaving an eronious int/concentration penalty somewhere in that stack.
I'd modify the "release all" routine, and make it a lagging command, and while you're lagged, rebuild that temporary stack or validate the contents.
A moment's lag won't hurt in the majority of times you'd use release all since they're non-combat. If you're in combat, and that bug hits you, then a short lag is worth it to fix it.

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