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Author:  Revel [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Backstab

Doesn't work anymore when behind a pet....

INFRONT OF PET

Group: X Party
(F1) [---------------] (F2) [ X ] (F3) [---------------]
(M1) [---------------] (M2) [ a large, bla] (M3) [---------------]
(B1) [---------------] (B2) [---------------] (B3) [---------------]
Characters Rank Pos Here Follow Prone HP ME PE
X Leader F2 Yes No No 88% 100% 100%
A large, black horse Member M2 Yes Yes No 63% 45% 87%

[HP: 88%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
bb bat
A furry brown cave bat makes a strange sound as you stab her in the back!

[HP: 88%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
A furry brown cave bat misses you.


BEHIND PET

A furry form hangs idly from the ceiling.

[HP: 80%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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bb bat

[HP: 80%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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A furry brown cave bat quickly jumps out of the way as a large, black horse kicks dirt into the air.
A large, black horse misses a furry brown cave bat.

[HP: 80%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
A furry brown cave bat bites at a large, black horse's chest, causing a deep gash.
A furry brown cave bat misses a large, black horse.
A large, black horse misses a furry brown cave bat.

[HP: 80%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
A furry brown cave bat bites at a large, black horse's chest, causing a deep gash.
A furry brown cave bat misses a large, black horse.
A large, black horse misses a furry brown cave bat.
A large, black horse crushes a furry brown cave bat's left leg, causing a sore wound.

[HP: 80%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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A furry brown cave bat bites at a large, black horse's left finger, cutting him slightly.
A furry brown cave bat bites at a large, black horse's right toe, cutting it slightly.
A large, black horse crushes a furry brown cave bat's left leg, bashing open a bleeding wound!
A large, black horse crushes a furry brown cave bat's chest, bashing a small but painful wound.

[HP: 80%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
bb batinf
They aren't here.

[HP: 80%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
inf

Group: X Party
(F1) [---------------] (F2) [ a large, bla] (F3) [---------------]
(M1) [---------------] (M2) [ X ] (M3) [---------------]
(B1) [---------------] (B2) [---------------] (B3) [---------------]
Characters Rank Pos Here Follow Prone HP ME PE
X Leader M2 Yes No No 80% 100% 100%
A large, black horse Member F2 Yes Yes No 64% 49% 93%

Author:  Revel [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

A giant spider clings to the wall here.
A large, black horse walks in from the east.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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bb spi

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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A large, black horse crushes a giant cave spider's stomach, bruising him slightly.



Coins carried: 1 platinum, 1 silver, 9 copper.
You still have a long way to go before the next level.
You have only recently discovered this area.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
bb spi

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
A large, black horse crushes a giant cave spider's chest, bashing a small but painful wound.
A giant cave spider pierces at a large, black horse's right toe, cutting it slightly.
A giant cave spider pierces at a large, black horse's right ankle, gashing a small wound.




A large, black horse walks in from above.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
bb bak

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
A large, black horse crushes a lean male bakemono's chest, bashing a small but painful wound.
A lean male bakemono scratches a large, black horse.
A lean male bakemono scratches a large, black horse.







THEN OUT OF THE BLUE!!!


[HP: 88%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
bb bat
A furry brown cave bat makes a strange sound as you stab her in the back!

[HP: 88%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
A furry brown cave bat misses you.
A furry brown cave bat misses you.
You miss a furry brown cave bat.
Overall, a furry brown cave bat has some small w

Author:  Minette [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

It's difficult to tell from that log but it looks like you are attempting backstabs on a target that's already hyper alert.

It's a feature for backstab, when someone's hyper alert, unless blind, they cannot be backstabbed.

That's where circle stab and hamstring come in.

Author:  Revel [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

Nope. They are fresh creatures. It initiates combat after a short time but there is no backstab. I'm sure it's another bug for left handers that needs to be fixed.

Author:  Revel [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

Though It does recognize Hyper-alert...

[HP: 78%] [ME:100%] [PE: 99%]
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bb koo
A blue-black koonac is still hyper-alert from combat.

[HP: 78%] [ME:100%] [PE: 99%]
>
inf

Group: X Party
(F1) [ a large, bla] (F2) [---------------] (F3) [---------------]
(M1) [ X ] (M2) [---------------] (M3) [---------------]
(B1) [---------------] (B2) [---------------] (B3) [---------------]
Characters Rank Pos Here Follow Prone HP ME PE
X Leader M1 Yes No No 78% 100% 99%
A large, black horse Member F1 Yes Yes No 15% 36% 99%

Author:  Minette [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

Why aren't there error messages in some of the logs posted above?

Do you have nospam turned on perhaps and some backstabs were dodged?

Author:  Revel [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

That's the bug. There are no error messages. All nospam is off. It's with both 1h and 2h weapons. Daggers and Swords.

Author:  Revel [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

Confirmed with another player. Can circle stab from anywhere but not able to backstab from the 2nd or 3rd row...

Author:  Revel [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

Different log from another rogue. Proving it's both Lh and Rh characters.

You move yourself to position (M1).

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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bs zak

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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A stately, heavy-framed camel slams into a zakami beastie and sends it
aj dye: itll start combat

Author:  zryych [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Backstab

Yep. Right handed
Code:
bac cat                                                               <--------10:59:09 PM

[HP:100%][ME: 85%][PE:100%]{21,Nature,1200:11am}
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A falcon pecks at a black cat's right leg, tearing flesh and bone!     <--------10:59:11 PM
A black cat misses a falcon.
A black cat misses a falcon.

No backstab but the falcon sort of figured out there's supposed to be a fight.

I've never tried to stab my own pet, so maybe this is normal, but just in case this is related... Trying to stab that same pet in front of the rogue from behind:
Code:
There is someone standing behind your victim, blocking your attack.

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