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Author:  evena [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  No water for you!

I'm a noob and totally forgot to log this. Sorry. Not having a sorc, it'd be hard for me to replicate it. Someone else might be able to. If you set out to try/test, use the wind-swept gnome.

Sorc gives charmed priest NPC a water container.
Sorc orders charmed priest NPC to c 'create water' container.
Sorc stacks command for ordering priest NPC to give the container back to himself.
Charmed NPC priest immediately stops what he's doing and hands the container back, empty.


Totally screwy. No idea what happened, but this NPC did it like 4 or 5 times.

Author:  alcoholrainbowpig [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No water for you!

You ordered the NPC before it was done casting the spell? I know you can order tribunal NPCs to cast spells on you, then order them to sleep which they do, then they cast the spell, in that order. I'm guessing something like that? Orders don't stack with NPCs as far as I can tell.

Author:  evena [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No water for you!

Even if they've already started concentrating?

Author:  alcoholrainbowpig [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No water for you!

Yes. At least the the law NPCs I've used. Never played a sorc so I'm assuming it works the same with charmies.

Author:  ninja_ardith [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No water for you!

Maybe you shouldn't stack commands like that.

Author:  evena [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No water for you!

Maybe it wasn't me! I thought I was pretty clear in indicating it wasn't.

Author:  ninja_ardith [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No water for you!

You still shouldn't stack commands.

Author:  Edoras [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:54 am ]
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You can order a NPC to do something while he's casting.

Author:  Alifer [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No water for you!

evena wrote:
I'm a noob and totally forgot to log this. Sorry. Not having a sorc, it'd be hard for me to replicate it. Someone else might be able to. If you set out to try/test, use the wind-swept gnome.

Sorc gives charmed priest NPC a water container.
Sorc orders charmed priest NPC to c 'create water' container.
Sorc stacks command for ordering priest NPC to give the container back to himself.
Charmed NPC priest immediately stops what he's doing and hands the container back, empty.


Totally screwy. No idea what happened, but this NPC did it like 4 or 5 times.


The charmed NPC priest does not 'immediately stop' what he's doing, but does interrupt what he's doing to politely hand you back the container as you'd requested. I believe he then finishes his spell with that whole priest uttered the words 'create water'.

I believe you can test this on any NPC capable of spell casting, not just priest, and not just 'create water' in this case. Give them an item, have them cast a spell (preferably with a longer duration), then order them to perform an action.

If PCs can't perform actions mid-concentrating, NPCs shouldn't either.

Though, I personally wouldn't mind having a 'stop' function on casting... but I'm sure I'll get ripped a new one for that.

Author:  alcoholrainbowpig [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No water for you!

I think you can order a NPC to cast a spell, order it to sleep, it will sleep and then cast the spell while sleeping. This was at least true with guard NPCs I tested. IDK though, maybe its a bug that is indicative of a larger less visible problem.

Again I'm just assuming that charmies and other controlled NPCs work similarly.

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