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MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
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Author:  archaicsmurf [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
There seems to be this bug where an MR can cast a spell on himself and then trigger aura of negation and NOT lose the spells they currently have. This seems to be a huge bug and oversight. I don't think an MR barb should be able to have their cake and eat it too.

Its all.. oh I luff magic so i will hold spells on me.. but just kidding, you have magic on you.. so imma take it.. mwahaa

When AoN fires it should not only sap the magic from opponents, but also from themselves and result in minimal healing.

This seems like a no-brainer.
Author:  Storm [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
Just get rid of the whole MR mechanic in general. The game will be a lot better.
Author:  skhellion54 [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
stop crying. If they hold spells on themselves and use the aura all spells held will drop already.
Author:  archaicsmurf [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
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o [Affects] Talimor of Taslamar o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Affect: 'impaired' - penalty to magic resist healing o
o Affect: 'dirt kicking' o
o Affect: 'aura of negation' o
o Affect: 'fury' - morale bonus to weapon speed o
o Affect: 'fury' - morale bonus to fortitude o
o Affect: 'fury' - morale bonus to willpower o
o Affect: 'berserk' - penalty to probability to dodge o
o Affect: 'berserk' - morale bonus to magic resistance o
o Affect: 'berserk' - morale bonus to weapon damage o
o Affect: 'berserk' - morale bonus to weapon accuracy o
o Affect: 'CABAL SPELL VS BASH' o
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Should not be possible.
Author:  FinneyOwnzU [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
skhellion54 wrote:
stop crying. If they hold spells on themselves and use the aura all spells held will drop already.


Unless there was an update I missed, this simply isn't true. There is a log on the other site of Alaric vs. Qahz, with Qahz using aura of negation while holding a cabal spell. The cabal spell did not drop and he continued to be immune to bash.

I personally don't think it is an issue, but I also don't like misinformation. The only beef I have with MR builds is the ability to heal with mistletoe - Dulrik tried to tweak that with diminishing returns, but it still way too effective.

There needs to be a more significant drawback to MR builds, but causing aura of negation to drop cabal spells held by the barbarian is too punitive and eliminates a lot of faction options. A better alternative is to drastically reduce or remove MR healing via mistletoe.
Author:  archaicsmurf [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
I disagree. MR Hammer griffbarbs are stupid OP. Harlequin MR barbs really shouldn't be too concerned about. Nor should MC MR barbs.
Author:  patrisaurus [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
So you're saying that Hammer MR barbs should be nerfed, but MC and Harlequin MR barbs should be able to hold spells? I don't quite get it. Sounds like you lost a fight recently and are crying nerf.
Author:  archaicsmurf [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
Sounds like MR barbs holding spells on themselves while firing AoN is imbalanced and contradicts the purpose of both MR barbs and AoN. Now, the post you're responding to refers to specific cabals because that was the counterargument. That suddenly MR barbs are not viable because of a few cabal abilities? I maintain my stance. MR barbs shouldn't have their cake and eat it too. EF, IA, and that harlequin ability should all be dropped and absorbed into healing when a barb fires AON. Why do I only refer to those three cabals? Because no other cabal skillset has a concentration based buff.

Seems like a drawback to playing MR. I assume that's why there's an option? Because there should be some drawbacks? Maybe I'm wrong.

If I am crying because I lost a fight recently, then I should be penalized and deleted for multiplaying. Because I haven't been involved in any PK or PVP where my character was impacted by AoN.
Author:  skhellion54 [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
when i was using the disguise spell from harlequins on my barb if i used AoN it would remove that spell. It should be the same with IA.
Author:  FinneyOwnzU [ Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MR Barbs Holding Spells on Themselves
skhellion54 wrote:
when i was using the disguise spell from harlequins on my barb if i used AoN it would remove that spell. It should be the same with IA.


It is definitely not dropping the Hammer cabal spell. You sure it was aura of negation and not the concentration loss from fury/berserk that caused you to drop the spell?
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