Shattered Kingdoms

My character has been called "mad" quite a few times by many people... The most recent was This guy Ixoma who said i was "wacky" All i did is figure out a way to work out loving ayamao for being so pure and still being a diabolic follower of algorab. The result was someone who is a quite crazy. so i dont think you need a god of insanity. You could be insane just fine the way the game is set up.

I think what people are REALLY looking for is not a god of 'insanity' per se, but a god of chaos and revelry (a la Yopp), rather than a god of Chaos (a la Marfik) whose main thrust is to create 'disorder' to [REDACTED] off the church of Ain.



All four of these quotes point towards an enmity of Ain. Even Marfik's spheres - chaos, mayhem, and anarchy - are all basically different ways of saying 'chaos'.

Not very chaotic if you ask me

Gnalish, your mouth keeps moving, but all I hear is "blah blah blah".

Way to quote Rockappella, own! And I thought you quit SKs?

There aren't enough staff members to support another set of spheres.

Only one question, what the hell does revelry have to do with chaos other than many good parties being chaotic? Not a thing.

Why, on SK at least, do they get intertwined? Because Yopparai was the last mortal to ascend to the pantheon. When he ascended he was a follower of Yigg; the god of Insanity, Entertainment, and Pleasure. So you have Yopparai who was going to be a Chaos god(steping out on a limb here) because Xareth had long since departed. Xareth was a hell of a lot more dark Chaos god, also to further show that Yigg was NOT a Chaos god he was also co-patron with Xareth of the Harlequins.

So what does this give us, it gives us Yopparai who was a tried and true Stufflord who ascends and grafts the Chaos sphere onto himself ostensibly
because Xareth is no more and it should be represented.

That's fine, but just because at some point it was grafted on doesn't make it the defining form of Chaos.





Because Ain is the embodiment of everything that Marfik is against and vice versa. He allows nothing but Princ and Aberrant, I allow anything but. Also, since you aren't really a follower I don't really expect you to know the next part.



Thank god no one asked you.

However, to clarify for people too lazy to actually use a dictionary. They aren't just different ways of saying chaos, they are different forms of Chaos. If I had my way the spheres would have been Disorder, Mayhem, and Anarchy. However, you can take Chaos as the bland plain jane form of Chaos, the catch all.

Mayhem is a more violent and destructive form of Chaos



Anarchy is more of a political type of disorder.



The third definition doesn't apply, however the other two do quite nicely.

It boils down to this, Mayhem is there more for the evil people in the world that want to cause death and destruction to bring about Chaos. It's also a hold-out from the essence of Chaos being stuck inside of Xareth for so long. Anarchy is there more for the lighties who want to buck the established norm for the betterment of others to cause Chaos. The first example that pops into mind would be the Black Panthers and the NAACP. They are/were both working towards the same goal, but had drastically different ways to do it. Then we have the catch-all Chaos there for all the neutral people that don't really care and want to cause Chaos however and whenever.

There are other things in the faith that support this, such as Marfik's fascination with the forsaken. However, as I said before. Since you're not part of the faith I don't expect you to have any knowledge of this kind of stuff.

In fact, since you're gnalish I expect you to do just this. Spout off half-cocked borderline asinine comments that don't do anything but further people's plummeting opinion of you.

roxxed

oooh *cowers before Marfik* Oh wait. This is an open forum.

Stop ruining our fun beotch. Everytime we say we want a god of Fun and Drunkenness you gotta [REDACTED] about Marfik. Hey maybe we do want Yigg back and not Yopparai. I know I do. I know alot of people do. Atleast I pay attention enough to see a difference. However, those that are looking for a special "dazzel" and special "funkiness" in their SK experience have been going to Mira's faith. Leaving Marfiks with stodgy people... I really havn't seen a truelly "chaotic" person in Marfiks faith for a long time. I mean someone prone to act randomly...never seen a drunk Marfikian myself... Hell, Vaodon never aided the Empire when we attacked Taslamar, he always defended it. Why do all the "chaotics" those that are all disorderly spend their time doing exactly what everyone else does?

It's just a thin mask of RP to get the skill/spell sets.

I want Yigg back, he never RPed dieing. Just leaving...

As for the arguement that there are not enough IMM's for another religion, well...uh...hmm...how do I say this...

We don't have a full Pantheon now, Algorab controlls the majority of it. I havn't read recently that she is completely against adopting another religion. I know Dulriks against this already.

It just strikes me as odd that such animosity can be flung around over the chaos of entertainment.

Ooooh no, the scary Marfik is coming! He's going to ruin our fun with "chaos"!

Oh wait, he can't do that. So don't let him....sorry Demon, but Roxxored? You can't roxxor fun, we'll just ignore you.

edit: I forgot I said msot of these things on the lat page...would delete but it got replied to too quickly...ignore.

You're right, I'm not in the faith. Haven't been since Yigg left. Thanks for noticing.

Okay, I'll buy your definitions. Sure, they do have their differences - one is political, the other is violent. Fine and dandy. That works. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

PS - have you noticed dicitionary.com's pronunciation key's suck?
mayhem = mhm-hm???
anarchy = nr-k???



Wait...plummetING??? Action verb? As in, still continuing to plummet? Wow. I need to try harder to achieve my goal of having all the Imms hate me then. CURSE you for still having a shred of positive opinion about me!!!

Oh wait...right, something that isn't asinine and half-cocked...hm...

Since you like dictionary.com so much:







I make my point yet? Or am I just spouting asinine, half-cocked ideas?

Yeah, you made the point that you've got a mental disorder and that you fail to read past posts.

I've already said countless times ICly, OOCly, on these forums, and in the past in IRC that the only common link between insanity and chaos is the fact that insanity is a mental problem(which is called a disorder). Since we're having dictionary.com wars, here is exactly what I'm talking about.



Chaos isn't an ailment. Chaos isn't a medical problem. The definition that ties the two together thinly is the same one that I've made note of before and dismissed. I like it being there as it gives a cool thing for Ainals to comment about and annoy Marfikians with, but as far as ACTUAL "I devote myself to the Master of Mayhem" followers, no. In fact, this has already been spoken about ICly as well, and I don't mind giving a bit out here just because there isn't a good Marfik book yet. Marfik has already came down from on high to say that he places those insane as part of the Forsaken. Forsaken aren't followers of Marfik, they are the tools/poor souls that the actual followers use/help.

As far as confusion goes, you're correct it should be a part of Marfikian philosophy. As a weapon against those of order, not as a permanant state for his followers. Confusion is a disturbance of consciousness, and in in-game terms is an aggressive and powerful spell that demostrates what it is quite nicely. It is rendering someone who can think only in orderly terms unable to, rendering them unable to make decisions. Marfikians don't have this problem as they don't think in orderly terms, they aren't confused they have simply seen the light.

As far as revelry goes, unrestrained merrymakeing can cause localized havoc as in trashing a single persons house. That however would be more along the lines of what a pantheist would do to show homage to Marfik. The main definition of havoc is widespread destruction and devastation. Something Marfik whole-heartedly supports having been a part of Xareth for so long. Basically, it'd be like comparing a house party to a riot. One is the act of a pantheist who happens to pay lip service, the other is a sign of true and profound faith.



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