Basher's lag > Bashed one's lag?

Dark-Avenger · **Posted:** Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:05 am

I just wander around, searching for some basic items while talking to an IMM for a bug(?) with limbs when I fly at a certain enemy of my char.

So I bash him, and kinda spam the o all bash to keep him there. And while in the past the basher had slightly less lag time from the one that was bashed, now it seems the terms are changed. That makes the bash skill a little useless, right? And no other skills were executed from my pet's AI during the battle that could add his lag(berserk, dirt kick, headbutt).

bb is my o all bash &1 alias

Quote:

bb albino
An immense gorilla slams into an albino male centaur and sends him sprawling!
An albino male centaur's armor protects him from the physical affects of an immense gorilla's bash.
Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 81%] R: Hewn Chamber
>

An albino male centaur crushes an immense gorilla's chest, barely wounding him.
An immense gorilla tries to charge at an albino male centaur's chest, but his blow is deflected by a set of black mithril mail.
An immense gorilla tries to charge at an albino male centaur's chest, but his blow is deflected by a set of black mithril mail.
An albino male centaur's shield blocks an immense gorilla's attack.
You stab an albino male centaur's head, cutting him a new eye socket!
You stab an albino male centaur's chest, causing a deep gash.
Overall, an albino male centaur has quite a few wounds.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 81%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
l alb
bb

You stab an albino male centaur's mouth, knocking out a few of his teeth!
You miss an albino male centaur.
You stab an albino male centaur's jaw, shearing it with a loud *SNAP*
An albino male centaur crushes an immense gorilla's chest, causing only a minor wound.
An albino male centaur crushes an immense gorilla's face, slightly bruising his cheek.
An albino male centaur's shield blocks an immense gorilla's attack.
An immense gorilla charges at an albino male centaur's chest, causing a deep gash.
An immense gorilla charges at an albino male centaur's chest, causing a gaping wound!
An immense gorilla tries to charge at an albino male centaur's chest, but his blow is deflected by a set of black mithril mail.
Overall, an albino male centaur looks pretty hurt.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 81%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
An albino centaur is before you. His skin, pelt and hair resembles fresh
fallen snow. One pink eye confirms that he is truly albino and not just
white-pelted. The other is an empy socket where, when he is wearing it, is
placed an orb of green flame. His hair is disheveled and sticks up in every
possible direction. It's uneven lengths add to the unkept visage. The tips
if his hair is slightly charred and singed. His nose is average and below
it is an average looking mouth that, when he speaks, gives a glimpse of
unusually sharp teeth behind. The only other distinguishable mark on his
person is a small spider tattooed on the back of his hand.
His head is mangled.
His chest is bleeding.
Overall, an albino male centaur looks pretty hurt.

An albino male centaur is using:
<worn on finger> a ring of white bone and sinew (good)
<worn on finger> (Glowing) a silver ring etched with blue and purple floral designs (brand new)
<worn around neck> a stone spider pendant (brand new)
<worn around neck> an aventail of burnished red maille (good)
<worn as symbol> a tiny orb of green flame
<worn on body> (Glowing) a set of black mithril mail (brand new)
<worn on head> (Glowing) a coif of mithril chainmail covered with sludge (brand new)
<worn front hooves> (Glowing) (Humming) the Thunder hooves (brand new)
<worn rear hooves> (Glowing) (Humming) the Thunder hooves (brand new)
<worn on hands> (Glowing) some gloves reinforced with mithril plates (brand new)
<worn on arms> (Glowing) a pair of mithril chainmail sleeves covered with sludge (brand new)
<worn about body> a backpack made from the skin of an acid scorpion (brand new)
<worn about waist> (Glowing) a mesh belt of black mithril (brand new)
<worn around wrist> (Glowing) some thin runed agate hoops (brand new)
<worn around wrist> some thin runed agate hoops (brand new)
<right hand> (Humming) (Flaming) a mithril flail (brand new)
<left hand> a shield emblazoned with a red sun (brand new)

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 81%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
An immense gorilla is busy right now!

Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 81%] R: Hewn Chamber
>

Someone tells you 'OOC The affects list change is a completely seperate thing too.'

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 81%] R: Hewn Chamber
>

You feel a surge of energy flow through your body.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
bb
An immense gorilla is busy right now!

Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
bb
bb

You puncture an albino male centaur's windpipe, making a shower of BLOOD!
You stab an albino male centaur's chest, ripping open his stomach!
You strike suddenly, stabbing at an albino male centaur's chest! Some GUTS fall!
An albino male centaur crushes an immense gorilla's chest, bashing a small but painful wound.
An albino male centaur crushes an immense gorilla's chest, causing a deep gash.
An immense gorilla charges at an albino male centaur's left ankle, gashing a small wound.
An immense gorilla charges at an albino male centaur's stomach, bruising him slightly.
An immense gorilla tries to charge at an albino male centaur's chest, but his blow is deflected by a set of black mithril mail.
An albino male centaur's shield blocks an immense gorilla's attack.
Overall, an albino male centaur is in awful condition.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
An immense gorilla is busy right now! <-- Lagged from his bash

Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
bb
An immense gorilla is busy right now! <-- Still lagged from his bash

Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%] R: Hewn Chamber
>

An albino male centaur quaffs a small porcelain flask of word of recall. <-- Not lagged from the bash!
An albino male centaur disappears.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
bb
An immense gorilla is busy right now! <-- Still lagged from his bash

Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
An immense gorilla is busy right now! <-- Even more?

Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE: 84%] R: Hewn Chamber
>
snap
You snap your fingers.

Is that a bug? Is it intentional? I'd like to see scouts/sorcs doing PKs if they have no means to keep someone there.

Nightwing · **Posted:** Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:13 am

I'm kind of surprised you forgot that initiating combat with a bash lags the basher for the full 3.2 rounds, but the victim for only the opening round. It's how wimpy casters get away from situations like this.

josephusmaximus3 · **Joined:** Tue May 20, 2003 1:19 pm **Posts:** 1896

Priests have no method of keeping players there for PK. Any decent pet I can think of tank wise(which really isnt all that great) for a priest, will almost always miss its bash. So at least your gorilla got me. And you almost did kill me in 3 rounds.

Also to whoever posted about one round for the bashed, it lagged me for three and the WoR fired right after the lag wore off, since i quaffed it after the first round.

[code]
An immense gorilla slams into you and sends you sprawling!
Your armor protects you from the physical affects of an immense gorilla's bash.

[HP:100%] [ME: 68%] [PE:100%]
>
You crush an immense gorilla's chest, barely wounding him.
An immense gorilla tries to charge at your chest, but his blow is deflected by a set of black mithril mail.
An immense gorilla tries to charge at your chest, but his blow is deflected by a set of black mithril mail.
Your shield blocks an immense gorilla's attack.
A huge male giant stabs your head, cutting a hole in it!
Your skull explodes with PAIN!
A huge male giant stabs your chest, causing a deep gash.
Overall, an immense gorilla has a few scratches.

[HP: 66%] [ME: 68%] [PE:100%]
> 1 <------Alias for quaffing a word of recall potion

A huge male giant stabs your mouth, knocking out a few of your teeth!
A huge male giant misses you.
A huge male giant stabs your jaw, shearing it with a loud *SNAP*
You have a serious CONCUSSION!
You crush an immense gorilla's chest, causing only a minor wound.
You crush an immense gorilla's face, slightly bruising his cheek.
Your shield blocks an immense gorilla's attack.
An immense gorilla charges at your chest, causing a deep gash.
An immense gorilla charges at your chest, causing a gaping wound!
An immense gorilla tries to charge at your chest, but his blow is deflected by a set of black mithril mail.
Overall, an immense gorilla has a few scratches.

[HP: 25%] [ME: 68%] [PE:100%]
>
A huge male giant looks at you.

[HP: 25%] [ME: 68%] [PE:100%]
>
A huge male giant punctures your windpipe, making a shower of BLOOD!
You have a serious CONCUSSION!
A huge male giant stabs your chest, ripping open your stomach!
A huge male giant strikes suddenly, stabbing at your chest! Your GUTS fall!
You crush an immense gorilla's chest, bashing a small but painful wound.
You crush an immense gorilla's chest, causing a deep gash.
An immense gorilla charges at your left ankle, gashing a small wound.
An immense gorilla charges at your stomach, bruising you slightly.
An immense gorilla tries to charge at your chest, but his blow is deflected by a set of black mithril mail.
Your shield blocks an immense gorilla's attack.
Overall, an immense gorilla has some small wounds and bruises.

[HP: 2%] [ME: 68%] [PE:100%]
> You quaff a small porcelain flask of word of recall
[/code]

Benzo Balrog · **Joined:** Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:48 am **Posts:** 1306

The gorilla was lagged for 4+ rounds from one bash? Sounds unlikely. Perhaps just the result of finicky pets.

Dark-Avenger · **Posted:** Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:24 am

My gorilla is actually at least 12 lvls higher than any storebought pet, size giant and has a pretty neat DEX(although I had no spells whatsoever, didn't expect to find PK in that area). If priests have no means to keep someone there for PK, it's a different story.

The point is, there is a bug as far as I know. I used to do this tactic with my past scout to get PKs, I used to do this with my necro, generally with any class I've played that had a decent bash pet.

As for what Nightwing said, actually I haven't experienced this so far. Worst that I have seen is making the order to bash when the basher's lag ended but the bashed one was still lagged, so all I was getting was like...

Code:

o all bash
Ok.

which eventually added to me order lag and the other one time to flee/quaff word. Keeping my pet lagged more than the one that was bashed has never happened to me before.

PS: Warlocks are pretty screwed also if that is the general rule - not that they are not screwed anyway

josephusmaximus3 · **Joined:** Tue May 20, 2003 1:19 pm **Posts:** 1896

So your pet can beat any storebought pet
You almost killed me in those three rounds unprepared.
I had 2% hp left, a couple better rolls on damage and i woulda been toast.
I really see nothing to complain about.

And wouldnt the 3 round of lag I received instead fo one round be a bug since bash was used to open combat.

Achernar · **Posted:** Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:38 am

Quote:

bb albino
An immense gorilla slams into an albino male centaur and sends him sprawling!
An albino male centaur's armor protects him from the physical affects of an immense gorilla's bash.
Ok.

Right here is the answer. The bash did not land fully and this did not lag the centaur. The lag still affects the gorilla, but he gets away.

Dark-Avenger · **Posted:** Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:46 am

No Achernar, that is what happens at bashing any opponent with decent AC. They take no HP dmg from the bash, if there is the other msg I've seen low HP chars losing up to 4-5% HP from bash damage.

Benzo Balrog · **Joined:** Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:48 am **Posts:** 1306

I'm pretty sure DA's right about this one.

Effect (i.e. lag) message wrote:

An immense gorilla slams into an albino male centaur and sends him sprawling!

Damage message wrote:

An albino male centaur's armor protects him from the physical affects of an immense gorilla's bash.

Nightwing · **Posted:** Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:40 am

We've been down this road before, DA.

http://www.shatteredkingdoms.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10113

So what's it really supposed to be? One round? Three rounds?

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