whocarez62 wrote:
I don't think I follow you. The area that is there now is utterly crap compared to the Undead Caverns that used to be there. There were a lot more atmosphere at the time.
The thing I used to like about the Caverns of the Dead were that they were laid out as the perfect progressively graded levelling area for a new character (or especially, new player) to cut their teeth on.
Thematically and descriptively they were appalling, but gameplay wise they were unsurpassed for the purpose that they served. I think it was the gameplay / explorative side of things that supplied the undeniable atmosphere. It certainly wasn't the quality of the awful descriptions.
With respect to whoever it was that rebuilt them as the Ayamoan Outpost, I despise the place. The descriptions are worlds better than the old Caverns, but thematically it's terrible (the penning up of sentient creatures for butchery and "training" at the leisure of their captors is something more worthy of the depravity of the Empire or Krychire - it's morally abhorant that the Ayamoan nation would sanction it). Complete aside, I have the same thematic objection to the Ayamoan newbie school as well. Maybe it's just me?
And as far as gameplay is concerned, the Outpost is terribly dull and repetative. The only thing it is good for is getting a quick five levels under your belt before moving on. And in that respect, it is exquisitely tuned.
Although I really believed at the time that the Caverns of the Dead needed a descriptive and thematic overhaul, on balance (and with 20/20 hindsight) I'd take them back over the Ayamoan Outpost if it were ever a choice of one over tuther (which of course it's not - the Caverns are Dead and gone, no pun intended)
whocarez62 wrote:
Another thing I miss is the sewers just beneath Exile (i know it has just moved a few leagues) but still it added something to the city. Everything has been totally seperated now a days.
You're out of touch. There's an entrance to the sewers right back bang in the centre square again now (sorry, The Cross!). You can smell the reek of them from the taproom of the Hart and Rose. Lots of other entrances throughout the city also.
Interesting, however, that you have such luxurious sewers beneath a city with open gutters; they'd have been better themed as catacombs and underground river to my mind. Then again, I had my chance to have my say and effectively dropped the ball, so damned if I'm going to critisize the guy that picked the ball up in my place and continued the run.
Besides, Fecal Demons rock. I'm even quite fond of the lurkers down there these days. As for mire ghouls? Work of genius, wish I'd thought of them