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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:41 am 
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Chemhound2007 wrote:
This thread is just Cyra crying cause he wants to horde more stuff.


I have a big enough horde.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:46 am 
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Chemhound2007 wrote:
This thread is just Cyra crying cause he wants to horde more stuff.


I have a big enough horde.


Well, an 8 lbs steel glove isn't out of the question.

But there needs to be more uniformity to the mud's weight distribution, I agree.

Cyra has a point that things are improperly weighted, I just do not know where the balance lies personally.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:07 am 
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First, 200lbs? Can someone carry it, yes. Can someone carry it over 10miles? NO. Don't even talk about weight be distributed over the body either.

Second, blunt weapons are more effective against full plate than piecing? I don't know what fantasy you live in but that is not the case. There were three weapons that made full plate mail not used. Military pick, rapier, and the gun. The first two came about the renaissance and because of these two weapons full plate mail wasn't being used as much. The gun of course sealed the doom for armor all together.

Third, Chemmy is a horder? That would presume he plays the game. And I think he has made it quite clear that he wasn't going to play sk anymore.

If we wanted a more realistic game. That maximum weight allowance would be about 120-150(I doubt this but I am being liberal with this number). Picks and Rapiers would WTF own all armor. Finally, Chem would still not be playing.


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Second, blunt weapons are more effective against full plate than piecing? I don't know what fantasy you live in but that is not the case. There were three weapons that made full plate mail not used. Military pick, rapier, and the gun. The first two came about the renaissance and because of these two weapons full plate mail wasn't being used as much. The gun of course sealed the doom for armor all together.


I actually live in the real world where a knife wielding assailant will rape someone in close quarters. Armor was used clear up into the 1800's, a fact that you neglect to mention. I forget his name, but he's a well-respected Australian figure that used armor that actually protected him from bullets, and the police ganked him by shooting him in the legs where he had no armor. The rapier making it unusable? wtf? Rapier is a dueling weapon much like the foil and epee. The only way a rapier would have harmed a guy in full plate mail would be to strike where the armor did not protect, like the area with the armpit, which was later reinforced with chainmail under it to prevent that sort of [REDACTED].

Armor in Europe was one of the most badass things you could get around the time the Italian smiths figured out how to make it even stronger. You would have to be 20 meters or closer with a bow to even penetrate the stuff with a longbow. And by that time with a guy (read: badass cavalry) in full plate mail charging your [REDACTED] down on a horse, you're pretty much [REDACTED].

Hammers exploited a weakness of transfer of motion, it is that [REDACTED] simple. The armor would be unharmed, but the stuff underneath it is going to get massively raped.


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Dude, I am done arguing. Also, stop taking plots from movies to justify your point. If you think a rapier was anything like a foil, you need a wpn history lesson

[edit] Just verified that some guy did do that in Australia. To bad he still died the only time he wore it


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:02 pm 
Ned Kelly, yeah. Man, was he all kinds of badass.

And actually no, he didn't die, he was captured and later put to death. He cursed the judge who sentenced him to come to hell with him, and shortly after being executed, that judge died. Eerie!


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Muktar wrote:
If we wanted a more realistic game.


Actually, I kinda don't. The unrealism is fun.

Peace,
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It's magic. Pyrathia has weird weights for materials. Whatever. You guys are fine.

The weights are perfectly good as they are. It's a game. It's balanced. If you want anal retentive realism, go play cnn.com or go read an encyclopedia.


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For the record, there are minimum weights for each item based on its location, size and material composition. There is no maximum weight, so sometimes items are heavier than they probably should be. If you think an item is way out of whack, feel free to bug log it.


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Muktar wrote:
Dude, I am done arguing. Also, stop taking plots from movies to justify your point. If you think a rapier was anything like a foil, you need a wpn history lesson

[edit] Just verified that some guy did do that in Australia. To bad he still died the only time he wore it


You're done arguing because you know I know more on weapons and martial arts (and movie plots!).

You can go and regale us with grand tales of how rapiers won wars for everybody.


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