Shattered Kingdoms

Can we get an approximate list of material types and what weights they are generally at size medium?

This is just so we know what is a bug and what is not and what your wish for weights to be.

You can't really classify it as a bug. Any item in question is the base weight + the extra weight that an imm assigns to it. There's no "bug" to that.

I was shocked when I realized, trying to build a copper torso armor, that I would be describing as "chainmail", that I'd be creating an 8+ pound monstrosity of metal. I actually think it was more. Maybe 10+ lb. Size medium! I cried to Dulrik, and he told me "stfu. >:(" so I've occasionally clamored for a reconfiguration of the armor system that would allow for different weight, dependent upon multiple variables. But I've beaten that to death, I think. Or at least it garnered no interest.

I'm assuming these weight disparities are a legacy issue from a time long past where "1 lb" was the lowest weight available. There are fractional weight allotments in the game now, but I'm unsure if they are applicable to armor.

For the time being, just assume a Pyrathian pound is greater than your standard pound. By at least double.

I would imagine that everything is somewhat ratio'd, seeing as I can't carry a substantial amount of weight 10 miles, much less a mile. If we compare things to our current life, then why don't we just get rid of everything that isn't in our real life? Hehe.

The longbow did more to remove full plate armor from the field than any other weapon in history.

Rapier? I laugh at you. A bludgeoning weapon to the skull would strike deadly blows as plate deals with bludgeoning damage terribly. It does little to absorb the blow and does not give at all, therefor translating that trama to the person inside the tin can.

Seriously though, most people in full plate died from either piercing weapons such as spears or arrows, or even moreso, slices to the calf region on the back of the legs. It is very difficult to make full protecting coverings for that joint in the body. I've seen some very well documented papers on the subject through the SCA, and a short sword to the joint in the back of the knee can either lead to disablement, infection, and then eventual toxic shock trama or just sheer bloodloss and ultimately death. Once the armor is bent and twisted, it is near impossible to remove without mangling the limb.

When a phalanx line was used pikes, arrows, and lucky shots with thinner durable blades (such as rapiers) hitting chinks in the armor did the killing, with one on one combat it was disablement of the legs or sheer blunt trama that won. Think Ajax and his giant frickin rocks.

Cough crossbow cough.

You'd be surprised. The crossbow just kind of added onto what kind of damage the longbow was already doing.

The old fashioned English longbowmen could drop half a division before they got to melee range...

As wikipedia says, "However, the vast majority of crossbows could not pierce plate armor, as they do not have the energy required to penetrate the typically 2 mm thick steel."

I don't know about what wikipedia says, but I've seen a crossbow in action, and it tore the [REDACTED] out of its target.

The velocity required for a longbow to pierce platemail requires the person with the bow to be almost right on top of the target.

Wikipedia can also be edited by anybody, so you can only take the information gleaned there with a grain of salt, like they don't even mention that the Italians used a process called quenching to make the steel harder.