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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:55 pm 
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By "shouldn't have been an immortal outside" I don't think he meant he literally thought a god was sitting outside, IC. He just meant that the mask-creating system should have been an NPC with an automated mask-making ability rather than an imm manually doing it.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:58 pm 
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There was no "immortal" at the door. There was a gentlemanly bouncer who was handing out masks. I should have been smart enough to make a mask of my own, because my normal disguise skill kept slipping. However, there was nothing to distinguish me from any other PC. I had a special adjective and description for the occasion and I don't believe I'd ever greeted anyone, so if you "knew" it was me, it was only OOC knowledege.


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A gentlemanly male human walks in from the north.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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A gentlemanly male human bows deeply.

[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
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look gentle
A human of godly stature stands before you in a pose of self assurance. His
olive skin color and slanted eyes strike you as somewhat unusual for this realm
and causes him to appear of indeterminate age. His long black hair is caught up
in a top-knot and his gaze seems to penetrate straight into the innermost depth
of your soul. He is armored in a suit of gleaming plate that has been engraved
with many images of a raised open gauntlet. As all of these images coalesce in
your mind, you realize you stand before Dulrik, the embodiment of Truth.
Overall, a gentlemanly male human is in excellent condition.

A gentlemanly male human is using:
<worn about body> a cloak of motley drab with iridescent lining (brand new)


Considering your desc tells us all that you're Dulrik, I think you're being a bit obtuse in saying that I must be using OOC knowledge - although to be fair I am, as I never looked at you. Then again, I'm not claiming anything IC, am I?

Also, if the god dulrik wasn't at the event, I'm surprised that an IC action was met with an ooc helling. So much for IC consequences for IC actions, and the lawlessness of Teron, eh.

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Just to reiterate, the god Dulrik was never at the party in any IC way. I was playing a completely different role. You've heard of roleplaying, right?


Yes, I have. I have at least half the who list at any given time greeted and have for some time now and regularly go out of my way to help newbies. I think you'd be hard pressed to find too many other people in a similar situation.

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I guess you are not even trying to hide which character you are playing, not that we hadn't all guessed. Who else likes to skirt the boundaries of the rules in such a lawyer-like fashion?


Though I suspect you've just given it away I don't think it really mattered that I said "I fireballed a room for it" as I was wearing a mask at the time, so nobody knew my identity. Oops! Luckily for both of us, I suspect, I have indeed started telling people who I play, since my RP has largely been ruined.

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Also, there's no need to make stuff up. 'HAR HAR'? There was nothing of the sort. This is where you need to recognize that your poor attitude colors your reality. The exchange was more like:


I don't think anyone is under the illusion that I was directly quoting you. If I had been, I would have used quote tabs, as I have above. Similarly, I'm sure nobody is under the illusion that you are directly quoting the situation either. But let's face it, this is what happened: people were understandably getting upset at a wait that was minutes long to even enter the event, and when someone (no matter how poorly) voiced it, you told them they could feel free to go someplace else.

Dulrik, you asked for opinions here. I gave mine. If you're going to attack me about it and give away my character's identity, I just wish you had in fact said "praise me for my work" instead of "if you want to talk further about the ball, you can do so here" and "What could the staff have done better in handling it?".


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:59 pm 
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Oh, lmao. I never read that desc.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:03 pm 
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In this case, the span between initial suggestion and actual event was two weeks from start to finish. It was a lot of work, and though I'll certainly agree that some things could have been less clunky with more prep time, sometimes it feels good to just DO something.

Thank you to everyone who came out for this, and everyone who's giving constructive criticism here too.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:26 pm 
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Oh, lmao. I never read that desc.

You didn't read it, because it wasn't there.

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I forgot to remove my description when I first showed up, but I removed it after one of the first two early-birds looked at me and I realized the mistake. It literally was gone before I'd been in the room more than a minute (out of the three hours that the event took place).

I'm almost positive that you were not in the room that early, because I was already hyper-sensitized to your name. To be fair, you might have passed by while I was making a quick change in the description editor. But I suspect you got it from someone else's posted log instead.

As far as your fireballing goes, I posted in advance that people who started fights during the party would get bounced. I tried to deal with it a bit more IC but you were not in the same room and I was frantically trying to handle the people that had been waiting so long in line. Funny how once you finally got done with the same queue you had been complaining about, you thought it was cool to make things worse for the people behind you.

I thought I sent you to a sitting room so someone else could talk to you. Turned out it was a hell room, but it's pretty much the same.

I did my best to help out with a great roleplaying event, that most people thought went off pretty well. I've admitted that things could have gone smoother. I do want to hear constructive criticism, but your suggestions sound more like attacks. If we didn't have such a sour past relationship, maybe it would be easier for me to actually take a critique from you.

Frankly, Jardek, you do your best to make life miserable for us at every opportunity and then call us out on the forums for it. It's just the kind of gall you tend to excel at. As for revealing your character, I've never named a name. You were the one that said you fireballed the event.


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My opinion lies largely with that of the crowd. More mask options (limit two of each) would have been nice. Having a slightly larger area for people to spread out would have been a good idea as well. It doesn't take anything to create a mind blowing amount of spam when there's thirty or more in one room. For being a spur of the moment idea, it went off fantastically.

As a side note, perhaps there could be some sort of flag that could be placed on spectators for these events that would gag some of the spam. You'd probably have to leave in socials, says, and emotes, but perhaps make it to where footsteps, inventory movement, and eating/drinking is done discretely? I'm not sold on the idea, but it's impossible to avoid blinding everyone in the room with scrolling text otherwise when you have so many attending.


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Yeah, Dulrik was just discussing the coding of some sort of 'RP-mode' gagset in the Harlie forums, as a matter of fact.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:37 pm 
Yes, I'm certain that everyone was left wondering after you said in relation to my character, "Who else likes to skirt the boundaries of the rules in such a lawyer-like fashion?".

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I forgot to remove my description when I first showed up, but I removed it after one of the first two early-birds looked at me and I realized the mistake. It literally was gone before I'd been in the room more than a minute (out of the three hours that the event took place).

I'm almost positive that you were not in the room that early, because I was already hyper-sensitized to your name. To be fair, you might have passed by while I was making a quick change in the description editor. But I suspect you got it from someone else's posted log instead.


Not sure why you are arguing this point - it's not particularly relevant to anything I mentioned in my first post. I'm certainly not sitting around in Exile cross talking about how Dulrik helled me or anything. Like I said, I did not look at you and I did not see the desc - that was taken from a log someone else posted. Perhaps if you explained WHY you are so fervently telling me that Dulrik wasn't there IC it would make more sense?

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As far as your fireballing goes, I posted in advance that people who started fights during the party would get bounced. I tried to deal with it a bit more IC but you were not in the same room and I was frantically trying to handle the people that had been waiting so long in line. Funny how once you finally got done with the same queue you had been complaining about, you thought it was cool to make things worse for the people behind you.

I thought I sent you to a sitting room so someone else could talk to you. Turned out it was a hell room, but it's pretty much the same.


Um, I wasn't the one complaining IC. Hell, I'm not complaining oocly, I'm giving constructive criticism as to what could have been done better, like you asked. Likewise my frequent use of the bug, typo and idea commands in-game are not because I love to rub you the wrong way, but because I'm trying to improve things for others.

I'm pretty much done with this argument - no matter how right I am, I'm not setting myself up to win long term.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:51 pm 
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Um. For the record, I was the one who saw Dulrik's desc and posted it, just because I thought it was slightly amusing. I did not mean to spark some irrelevant discussion about it.


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Jardek wrote:
Perhaps if you explained WHY you are so fervently telling me that Dulrik wasn't there IC it would make more sense?

Because it wouldn't make any sense in-character for Dulrik to be a bouncer. I was not there as Dulrik, I was there as a bouncer. To anyone who was not at the event, your original post made it sound like there was a god handing out masks to the party.

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Um, I wasn't the one complaining IC. Hell, I'm not complaining oocly, I'm giving constructive criticism as to what could have been done better, like you asked.

I'm pretty sure I remember your character coming by and saying 'Is the queue still this long? I left because it was too long earlier.' or something very similar to those lines. I also recall you reinforcing someone else's complaint later. So yes, those were both IC complaints.


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