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Are humans by -far and away- the best melee race in the game?
Yes, your an idiot for not making a human warrior. 61%  61%  [ 20 ]
No, cold iron vials are sold everywhere. 39%  39%  [ 13 ]
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It's like Inzy's rant on deep elves and their weaknesses a while back. They have far far too many weaknesses compared to their strengths. Iron damage, light / holy / divine damage, color spray = near insta blind unless you enchant the hell out of your suit (Not always available to some people.) BoG, holy word..The list goes on and on. Elves are in the same boat sort of, but I've never played one, so I don't know.


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I want my cold iron vial. :)


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Kin wrote:
It's like Inzy's rant on deep elves and their weaknesses a while back. They have far far too many weaknesses compared to their strengths. Iron damage, light / holy / divine damage, color spray = near insta blind unless you enchant the hell out of your suit (Not always available to some people.) BoG, holy word..The list goes on and on. Elves are in the same boat sort of, but I've never played one, so I don't know.


I'm so glad someone's reading.

Gimp humans or pimp faes.
These are the only options.


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I think humans are just fine and they aren't the best race for everything. I will agree that delves are completely shafted though. Helves are better choices as a race than humans for many classes: Bards, Swashies, Scouts, and a couple more but I don't want to look for them.


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Half-elves aren't even close to as good to humans, for any class, period, except possibly rogues who might need infravision. Other than that humans and half-elves are nearly identical except that half-elves take 1.5x as much damage from half the weapons in the game, and humans do not. I'd really like to here how you came up with something half-elves have that offsets such a massive weakness. Think about it like this. Humans and half-elves were balanced before the racial weaknesses were put in. Then half-elves got a massive wimp and humans stayed the same.


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The only racial weakness I am even remotely concerned about is the 6-pieces-of-eq weakness. None of the others harm or help me since I don't know anything.


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Half-elves aren't even close to as good to humans, for any class, period, except possibly rogues who might need infravision. Other than that humans and half-elves are nearly identical except that half-elves take 1.5x as much damage from half the weapons in the game, and humans do not. I'd really like to here how you came up with something half-elves have that offsets such a massive weakness. Think about it like this. Humans and half-elves were balanced before the racial weaknesses were put in. Then half-elves got a massive wimp and humans stayed the same.


Before racial weaknesses were added to helves, they were by far the best race in the game. Also, if you noticed 2 of the 3 that I suggested were 2nd or 3rd row classes. Which limits the amount of combat they see in pvp.


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Yeah but 2nd and 3rd row really doens't mean anything. Its not like humans can't go to those positions too, and not die in 7 hits to a cold iron battlespear, or 8 hits to iron arrows. All made up by what advantage exactly? infravision?

Plus, where did you get the idea half-elves were better than humans? Humans have always had argueably better stats for most classes/races, especially for casters.


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How the hell is the poll at 6-9. There isn't a single person who can come forward and make a valid arguement for half-elves.


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but for the cold-iron weakness, half-elves make much better hellions than humans, for one, as well as swashies, if you consider the cha bonus to taunt.


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