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Are humans by -far and away- the best melee race in the game?
Yes, your an idiot for not making a human warrior. 61%  61%  [ 20 ]
No, cold iron vials are sold everywhere. 39%  39%  [ 13 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:10 am 
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Oh, bugger! Foiled again!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:13 am 
The NAACP -is- a racial weakness. :wink:


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Goldlantern wrote:
...Continuing to say that griffons need work, is like continuing to say that Canada still needs to have a warship.

EDIT: Fixed the allusion to reflect something that can more easily be seen as humor, lol.


You are still an ardtard.

Apologizes to Kalen


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Honostly, you guys are total idiots if you don't think that makes humans imbalanced. Your just straight stupid. Its not a complicated concept.


I had to stop for a moment at this and reply.

Let me fix this for you.

Honestly, you guys are total idiots if you don't think that no racial weaknesses make humans imbalanced. You're just straight stupid. It's not a complicated concept.

Your insult would be much more appropriate if you had at least made an intelligent attempt at calling people with an opinion opposite of yours stupid.

Can we please leave stuff like this in the GD?

After scanning all the various arguments and opinions, I still think that we should not really gripe about humans being an imbalanced race because of the fact they have no weaknesses. They don't have any bonuses either. They're a good race to have for new players and while they make fantastic tanks, they're not the best in the spell-casting arena. Thats not saying they aren't the worst, they're just average. Anything average, placed into the hands of a knowledgeable player, can become elite. That and I've always been under the impression that humans were meant to be the easy race for most classes and that choosing other races to play simply increased the difficulty to the level of play on SK.

... Minus giant barb/mercs


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:04 am 
Humans aren't imbalanced, the problem is that racial "bonuses" are so pathetic it isn't even funny. AND elves/deep-elves have horrible stats for pretty much everything honestly, except an elf bard. Deep-elves get a whopping 1 more int than human casters, and 2 less wisdom. Casters uh kinda need wisdom guys. And the only thing elves have going for them is a high Charisma. But wait! Elves and deep-elves get innate sneak! Oh wait, that's so [REDACTED] it isn't even funny.

I'm not even going into weaknesses.


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The problem lies in the fact that the bonuses and weaknesses are given numbers that are far too generous.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:28 am 
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Personally I find griffons fine. Most griffon chars barely need any sort of equipment to play. Granted, a griffbarb can't be as 'elite' as a fully decked human barb, but, naked he can be better than 5 naked human barbs. This sort of benefit is cool enough on its own, I think.


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So 2x modifier for iron damage to elf/deep-elf? Wow I thought it was less than that, add in 2x for bash.... i think i might reroll the 2 chars i just created to come back again.


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I know josephus, its the biggest joke ever. Blatantly any race that doesn't have an iron weakness has a -drastic- advantage over others and yet people just refuse to accept the truth.


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