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 Post subject: Deep-elf sorc survival.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:30 am 
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To be blunt, deep-elves get raped any time they get
any sort of damage. Especially sorcerors.

On top of the physical weakness, there's:
color spray-blindness which really really sucks
(since you can't even reach into your pack and
get out that pesky little cure blindness herb/potion).

Bolt of Glory which is pure murder,
since often you can't even escape.

Iron/cold iron weakness which, admittedly
doesn't really matter much, since pretty
much anything with an edge can tear a delf
sorc apart like a piece of old paper.

Now, I'm not going to [REDACTED] about all these
weaknesses (more than I already have),
but I would like a few decent methods to
prevent death in the first pk round because
someone felt like bringing a battle-spear or
a rogue with a sharp stick.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:36 am 
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Maybe buy a mount, and charm some npc and stand in third row?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:42 am 
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I am one of those who believe that deep-elves should get a slight relief of all those vulnerabilities they suffer from.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:43 am 
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Mirror image(scribed at the free powerful scrolls so you won't keep it casted yourself - you still get 5 images anyway that last forever) to avoid backstabs. Consider spam using some of the many store bought staves/wands of stone skin also. 3rd row always should prevent any melee contact with you. Ranged combat with iron weapons now... If you see this, get ironguard. Last I checked there were staves and you can keep a potion with you all the time anyway. The moment ranged combat with iron arrows starts, quaff it.

On spells now, you are given the awesome spell called enchant armor. This spell, added with certain water full suits that start at mod MP/refl, can allow you to easily get 50 MP and 40 refl, enough to usually laugh at color spray and BoG(if you add the shield spell on top of these). Or simply use pieces that have MR on them and try to built them up to 6+ MR per piece, then get spell ward and have almost complete spell immunity. Know that if a spell goes through your MR though, you will be in pain.

And last but not least, etherealform scrolls/wands. If things get tough(and you have nimbus from BoG for example), go ethereal.

PS: Delf high int means you can easily keep two charmies for PK situations or one charmie and still do lots of things.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:49 am 
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Thank you Dark-Avenger.
As for buying the mount and charm,
I think you overlooked the Rogue-with-sharp-stick point, Osterich.

Edit: It's nice enough being able to stand in the back row,
but it's even nicer to be able to not-die from two
gaping holes in the back.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:17 am 
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Just a quick question about Etherealform. If you go Ethereal, can spells such as holy word and dispel still damage you / cancel ethereal?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:59 am 
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Obviously.

But once again, the awesomeness of the enchant armor spell is there to save you.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:53 pm 
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Kin wrote:
Just a quick question about Etherealform. If you go Ethereal, can spells such as holy word and dispel still damage you / cancel ethereal?


Don't you hate it when someone answers "obviously" to a question? Yes they can dispel you and holy word can dispel you. You can also dispel people from etherealform which is always fun


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:58 pm 
Okay, everyone here is a liar.

There is no survival as a deep-elf. You will die, and you will die a lot. :o


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:19 pm 
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Honestly, the best way to survive as a deep elf is to polymorph into another race when pk'ing.

The really really really best way is to hide and never pk.


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