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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:16 pm 
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I don't even want to hear it was the Hand. Since I have started playing Hotepsunum (530 hours ago) we have never been able to summon kill with NPCs for fear of being booted out by Benjamin. So in that regard I am positive this was not our doing.


Right. This was not the reason of said change, though. It was more an issue of certain players summoning every named NPC there is, putting law-mobs in the same room and then just waiting for outlaws to gate to said target and get owned.

Obviously, people who have access to the summon spell through their own spellset are not impeded by this change, but I personally hope they receive the proper punishment, if they do not take what seems to be a warning seriously.


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And don't mention Peso as a reason for your restraint. That's like using Qadaffi as a reason why you don't blow up buildings.


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The current changes were made because of abuse. If you want to keep summon unchanged on players, it is highly suggested that it is also not abused.


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Right. This was not the reason of said change, though. It was more an issue of certain players summoning every named NPC there is, putting law-mobs in the same room and then just waiting for outlaws to gate to said target and get owned.


NPCS summoning PCs, and PCs summoning gate anchor NPCs to certain areas are two completely different things. As I understand it his post said NPCs and guard NPCs can no longer summon.

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The ability of charmed NPCs (including NPCs ordered by a tribunal leadership skill) to summon is no longer possible, due to the inability of the playerbase to use the skill judiciously, or to abide by "The Golden Rule of Etiquette".


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Someone tried to summon you!
You receive a vision of your tormentor...

Rocky Clearing
The ground here is broad and rocky. A small well has been situated
roughly in the center, with ground rapidly sloping down on either side at a
perilous rate. Directly to the west is a fortified building while to the
east is the ever-increasing incline, eventually leading one to the proving
grounds.
Obvious exits: e w nw sw
A complicated contraption of wood and metal is here.
A torch rests here.
A small well sets at the center of the clearing.
This humble, wooden sign has been staked into rock.
A XXXXXXXX male half-elf is flying here.
The priestess Seraniym, prefect of the Talons, keeps watch here.
(HP:100%) (ME: 28%) (PE: 96%)11am


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And don't mention Peso as a reason for your restraint. That's like using Qadaffi as a reason why you don't blow up buildings.


And I did not mention "Peso" I mentioned "Benjamin" I'm sorry if you cannot distinguish between the two but some of have the ability to.


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And the summon spell is no longer able to be scribed, which is actually a massive BOOST to summoning. Players no longer need to be able to fear their summon failing and someone instantly whipping out a; get summon from backpack;remove dagger;auto summon;wear summon;recite xyz.

Good change.

EDIT: Just to point out, I don't think summon ever should have been changed from its original form, but as long as we have this super-anti-pk-mud system of summoning in which using the summon spell has been drastically wimped, this buff is appreciated to encourage more summoning.


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And don't mention Peso as a reason for your restraint. That's like using Qadaffi as a reason why you don't blow up buildings.


And I did not mention "Peso" I mentioned "Benjamin" I'm sorry if you cannot distinguish between the two but some of have the ability to.


Since Peso uses OOC info to find targets for whatever char of his to PK, and since, Peso cannot avoid going OOC when arguing with someone he just involved himself in PVP with, and since Peso uses game mechanics to find loopholes to better himself with whatever char he's running, be it a merc whatever of whatever religion or what have you, Peso does not differentiate himself from his chars. Why should I? Even Dulrik said Peso gives him headaches on a regular basis.

Yes, I know people who have blocked him from their YIM because he tried using YIM connections to get rezzes. Yes, I have experienced his insta-ooc to debate me in-game. Yes, I've seen him use fresh logs to find targets to attack. So, no, don't tell me his chars are a separate entity from him, because every piece of evidence shows that is not so. Thank you very much, now go away.


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Lol, no idea what pushing is talking about, but okay. But for Pushing 40, I deleted my YIM a long time ago, and now only have the members of my tribunal on a new one that no one else had better know. Having them on it is not a means of OOC by any regards, we are friends and we chat, I use chat channels with them when we are on big trips where I know not everyone knows what to do, so we can help them and teach them(IE: Iron Citadel/Wastelands).

I don't do anything on YIM that no one else has ever done, and I've restricted myself, and my tribunal from doing alot of stuff too.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:46 pm 
Maybe you had better take wild accusations and flim-flammery to GD, p40. I'm all for you two kids flaming each other, but maybe someplace where I can join in the fun without getting banned.


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thats all I had to say:P


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The current changes were made because of abuse. If you want to keep summon unchanged on players, it is highly suggested that it is also not abused.

Define abuse then.


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