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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:53 pm 
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Phantom! When did you come back1?!?


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Where in Dulrik's extraordinarily bitingly humorous post do you find any self-justification, DA? While the debate is definitely worth having, your self-aggrandizement does the debate a great disservice. Dulrik said you ignore what he says; therefore, anything you say must be evaluated based on the fact Dulrik refuses to enter into conversations you start because you refuse to listen to Dulrik the creator's responses.

I've said it before, this thread was a win-win situation for me anyway.

Dulrik not even attempting to reply to me means he accepts the current situation of the code. This means he accepts the free will of the tauntee to avoid the taunter by activating devices. Similar to the situation with the necklace. If Dulrik had a little decency and cared the slightest about this game he'd at least say it's a bug and he'd look into it(if it was a bug). So I guess it's fine for the code to work as it is now.

So Achernar loses. Not only he seemed like a fool when he said that his opinion is the opinion of Dulrik(which is not), not only he wimped an item that worked perfectly(according to the item's builder and Dulrik himself), but he also destroyed the gaming experience of a player based on OOC dislikes, YIM contacts or whatever. A [REDACTED] example of moderation.

I guess it must really suck to be Achernar.

PS: SK_Phantom, it's well known that SK is no democracy. I'm just waiting to see how far they can go until they reach pure fascism.
PPS: It's also well known how stubborn Dulrik and imms can be. They don't change back anything, unless in rare occassions(like the xp cost recall thing). But I guess now that Achernar sees his error in judgement, he'll have to change things back. Unless he wants to keep it like that for purely OOC reasons, to spite me, although Dulrik never supported his views on taunt. That, or he can be a total nazi and just prove the PS above.


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That is the funniest thing that has ever been said, DA. *gives a golf clap*

Everything you just said must of been a joke. To say that he is a fascist would have to mean that there is actual money being made on this project. And on top of that he would be silencing you for speaking out against him.

Also, to say that no matter what D or anyone else said means that you won, that has to be the biggest clue that you were being sarcastic.

I also love how say that the reason that something was gimped was because of some YIM contacts or whatever.

I will be staying awake longer just to hear more of this comedy routine.


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Eh, Muktar, news flash for you, fascism has nothing to do with money.

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Fascism is a totalitarian nationalist ideology that is concerned with notions of cultural decline or decadence, and which seeks to achieve a millenarian national rebirth by exalting the nation, as well as promoting cults of unity, strength and purity.


I'm not so wrong really. There is a totalitarian ideology(not nationalist, but pro-imm-list at least), it has notions of cultural decline or decadence(ignoring obvious bugs or generally lowering the game's culture by destroying perfectly working items) and it promotes cults of imm asslicking and stuff.

If you don't belong in these cliques, you are just screwed. Achernar or Mussolini or whatever(hypothetical names) might appear and [REDACTED] up with you because they simply dislike you. Oh wait, at least one of these names did something similar in SK. :lol:

On the matter on Dulrik ignoring me, there are two option really as well. One, he finds the current code working perfectly, thus no need to comment or anything or claim it to be a bug. Or two, he is the shittiest game developer I've ever seen in my life, when obvious huge bugs and loopholes in the code are shown to him and he just ignores them.

I don't consider Dulrik to be such a [REDACTED] game developer. Really. I thought the first option was much better for all of us, but if you all want to consider him a [REDACTED] game developer, be my guest.


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I don't know what dictionary you use but here is three different definitions.

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1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.


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A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


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1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

courtesy of dictionary.com, american heritage dictionary and merriam websters.

All of which talk about stringent economic controls. It is government that is about money. Keep trying though.


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Dark-Avenger wrote:
On the matter on Dulrik ignoring me, there are two option really as well. One, he finds the current code working perfectly, thus no need to comment or anything or claim it to be a bug. Or two, he is the shittiest game developer I've ever seen in my life, when obvious huge bugs and loopholes in the code are shown to him and he just ignores them.


That has to be the most extreme case of self-aggrandizement I have ever read. It is entirely possible someone could ignore you because you are not worth the time or effort to talk to. In such case both one and two as described in my quote could be false. Of course you're so full of yourself you'll never get hungry so you missed that.


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Muktar, where do you see economy as part of your definitions? I see dictatorship, nationalism and racism as the key points of fascism. Socialist economy and hatred towards other economic models(like communism) always came afterwards.

Why do you think it's called NS and not SN? :P

Anyway, enough with the off topic. You answered your question yourself.

SK is a dictatorship where if you oppose the ones in power, you end [REDACTED] up from them. Even if you were right, with proper arguments. And it doesn't take much to happen, they just have to dislike you as a player and [REDACTED] your characters in the game also.

So now let's move on.

EDIT: Pushing40: If pointing out obvious "bugs" is not worth the effort of the game developer to even make a small comment about them, it appears they are not bugs, or that he is really a [REDACTED] developer. This is the case with Dulrik. Simply ignoring anyone who points out bugs of his product means he is a [REDACTED] developer. Choose which side do you support.


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Dark-Avenger wrote:
but for not caring the slightest for the wasted hours of my life re-enchanting said piece of equipment.

So if you are fine with destroying my gaming experience, just refrain yourself from preaching such things in the future, will you?


Nobody is forcing you to spend your game time enchanting stuff, that's your choice and yours alone, so stop bitching about it.

Nobody but yourself is destroying your gaming experience, if anything you are destroying everyones by your bitching and baby fit throwing you continue to do, grow the [REDACTED] up and get over yourself!

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So Dulrik, if I understand you correctly, you say that you should be able activate magical devices or cast magic yourself at will to get out of taunt, right?


what he said it basically you are wrong yet again and doesn't wanna waste his time listening to you whine and [REDACTED] about you not getting your way.


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Nobody is forcing you to spend your game time enchanting stuff, that's your choice and yours alone, so stop bitching about it.

Nobody but yourself is destroying your gaming experience, if anything you are destroying everyones by your bitching and baby fit throwing you continue to do, grow the [REDACTED] up and get over yourself!

I choose to spend this game time once, until everything meets my standards. Then I expect to keep these items until I [REDACTED] up and lose them(get PKed for example).

If now some [REDACTED] immortal appears out of the blue [REDACTED] and destroys my items for no apparent reason, that's a waste of my time. And that's the amount of respect some imms have for the players. Oh right, I just remembered my earlier posts. I guess I should be lucky I didn't end up locked in hell(SK's Guantanamo?) or executed for opposing the government of this dict... SK's immortals I mean. That's the SK way. :o

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what he said it basically you are wrong yet again and doesn't wanna waste his time listening to you whine and [REDACTED] about you not getting your way.

That's what I'm saying. He said I was wrong. Etherealform should be allowed to be activated on command because I guess you have the free will as a tauntee to do anything possible to avoid taunt, so the bug that I implied to exist is not a bug really.

But now we have other bugs that appear. The necklace is not working, you can't even quaff word potions for example either. How strange, to have the will to turn into another plane to avoid the swashie but not having the will to pray to your god for help to gtfo. :o


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Apparently for DA, "win-win" and "a waste of everyone's time" are synonymous.


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