Shattered Kingdoms

I rember helping Dimmel take out guardians. No where near that powerful now. They STILL have galreing weakness that are hard to overcome. And the undead don't get left behind to clean up.

There are a great number of ways to counter bolt of glory as a necromancer. Most of them are instantaneous but all of them require preparations. On another topic, deep-elven vulnerability to light/bolt can be seriously watered down with correct schools of enchantments and buffs. Bolt of glory on a geared/prep'd necromancer only did 20-30%.

What can be somewhat frustrating to necromancer playstyle is that there are usually many paladins and priests happy to spam cast holy word. Now that spell is very difficult to stop from a veteran caster. Dulrik spoke of creating a new spell for necromancer that can protect their controls. Maybe one of these days...

Just more junk to concentrate on.

Remove all the OPed wands/scrolls/staves and lower concentration costs so you can hold your own spells.

I actually agree with Redman on this. I would rather I be able to hold my own spells than have to rely on wands, scrolls and other devices.

Sure and while your at it, why don't we just add energy hides back to the game, add more adamantite, add more mithril, add more weapons, and add more things with sweet scripts to be abused. Am I making any sense here?

Arelgama

Difference between taking stuff out of the game so you have to use your own spells. I don't see how adding hides back into the game can compare. Just means I have to be more reliant on my Art/mana/spells and can be because I can concentrate on enough of them. Scribe and brew are still in the game.

You obviously missed my point.... I see stupid people!


Arelgama

I have long since advocated removing all offensive scrolls/wands/staves.

I had a GM priest named Xull a long time ago. I was in adepts back when Brady had his delf Necro in adepts. The one before he had Kemilla. I never ever got hit with BOG ever. I was killed by taunt. Cyra killed me three times with taunt. I couldn't do anything about it. No word. Couldn't cast. Nothing. I would just quaff all my [REDACTED] so he couldn't have it when I was dead.

So basically I'm just talking out of my [REDACTED] when it comes to personal experience. But I have noticed that people say oh just get a ton of resists or oh just be ethereal, but that's all total BS to keep people from fixing BoG. I've never ever seen a necro raid anything and come out on the winning side. I'm not countin Algons necro because I never really saw him do anything besides break tribunal bank accounts. It's harder to fill a bank account then it is to get new eq so ofcourse being kind of mean and spiteful like he is he went that route, another story all together.

I personally believe BoG is over powered. Necros loose every which way but loose. I mean I personally killed one with a half dozen wraiths just using bs/dual bs. They are kinda garbage really.


When I had Roriand myself and Jorlian killed EVERY necro there was while Roriand lived. And it was nothing. Pet, scout, paladin formation. There was no way they could kill the sanced pet before my bogs killed the necro. And that was before animates had a concentration cost and everyone had like 20 wraiths.

I donno how much proof needs to pile up over the years before Dulrik does something. Between holy word, bog, and bs/dual bs there is no possible way for a necromancer to fight any balanced group. You have a priest and a sanced merc you can beat a necro with holy words. You have a rogue with an ethereal scroll he can beat a necromancer. You have a paladin with a pet and or law NPC he can rape a necro. It's just so easy to foil the class. I'll take a non delf sorc and a charm over a necro any day.

Necromancers have been wimped so much they are nothing really. The class was to good in PVE by that I mean cabal raids so they got wimped and they got wimped 'cause people abused edrain and wimp for this and that and this and that and they really are just a bunch of wimps.

I donno. Maybe I'm just not seeing the good players taking up necromancers or when they do they don't fight pcs with them. They Arrpee or spend their time killing NPCs.

WHAT THE HELL. You would suggest that they should be able to easily own everything? That's [REDACTED] stupid. And with the full EQ you describe, a necro wouldn't have problems with BoG. Get your [REDACTED] together.



Necromancers are an advanced class (and because of this, they come with a lot of enemies), if you boost them, you boost their performance cap and they become even more ridiculous in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing. Go back to playing a griffon fist shaman.

This isn't about OMFG OOC-KNOWLEDGE, anyone can get a buddy to scribe some mirror image scrolls, hell, even a weak recite of that will last you long enough for you to thoroughly eat through an atyrros and bash that paladin and put his mouth on the curb - not to mention that in the meantime you can use ... *gasp* ... SPELLS!

Necromancers are ridiculous, there is not a single one-on-one matchup which a necro will lose with a modicum of prepation on top of his undead... And please, do not forget that on top of the massive power of undeads they have an extensive and deadly repertoire of spells - something which people tend to forget in their 'o all bash'-frenzy.

In short, if you want a class that is easy to play, pick something besides a necro - and take the word of people who can, that they are by far the most powerful class in the game.